Westministenders: Boris and God Knows what next. (I'm all out of ideas!)

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Still a week until Stoke and Copeland. (Labour Hold/Con Gain unless something strange happens) QT is from Stoke next week.

A50 hits the Lords next week. Melania is being lined up to do something for the women. (God help us all).

Will UKIP survive? Will Nuttall survive? Will Labour survive? Will Trump survive? Will CNN survive? Will the Lords survive? Will Theresa May survive a class room of children?

All these questions and more

at Stoke woman. The lunatics really are vying to be in charge of the asylum.

Channel 4 Monday evening 8pm - Supermarkets: Brexit & Your Shrinking Shop. Some sober viewing for the nation no doubt.

Na it's only watched by the regressive progressives who are subject to being brainwashed by liberal elite. It's another part of project fear. Prices are not really changing for market reasons. It's politically motivated price rises to deliberately try and hold the masses hostage and an attempt to starve them into changing their mind about Brexit. This is why there is a vegetable shortage. It's not real. It's an EU attempt to blackmail the UK. This is why I'm still getting lettuce and tomatoes in my very local veg box whilst there is nothing at supermarkets. It was on Facebook and then reported by Russia Today so it must be true. Why else would they report it when the rest of the mass media ignore the shameful story.

Just wait til the summer when people go on holiday. The headlines are gonna be mega.

By election result for the Emmbrook ward of Wokingham.
Chris Everett, Labour 3.0%
Kevin Morgan, Conservatives 33.3%
Phil Ray, UKIP 3.9%
Imogen Shepherd-DuBey, Liberal Democrat 59.7%

The seat had been extremely marginal, and the LibDems have been itching to take this for a few years now. Now, no doubt it can be spun as a total collapse of Labour, but it doesn't look good for either the Tories (or UKIP either). Rumour had it, that Deadwood Redwood, the arch Eurosceptic in this strongly Remain area, was pressed into service canvassing. This probably did more harm than good on reflection.

Red that makes total sense, unfortunately, about why these scandals are not only not damaging but actively encouraged. This is the Trump/Banks method.

Because...
U ok Hun?

That's a lot of deleted posts. Did I miss any gems?

I see Blair really rattled some cages .

Nice use of the Raid bcf

The Times reporting housing market slow down.

Psychologically it is pretty interesting though that the people who were generally speaking up/protesting about inequality before all discussion was swamped by Brexit - bleeding heart liberals - are the ones now being blamed in the most vitriolic terms for that inequality, while those who were/are actually driving it, on the right of the Tories, now Brexiteers, are being embraced as saviours of ordinary people. There is probably a name for this syndrome.

Did I miss any gems?

No, just a rant against Red's posts. Like the response to Tony Blair's speech, someone was rattled.

Thanks for the new thread RTB. Just caught up.

I don't think that's news to many ghost...very very slow round here housing wise
Kaija...yes. exactly.

The Times was leave wasn't it?
Hmmm
Express as batshit as ever...."New cure for diabetes/heart disease/gout and a story about diana*

*delete as applicable
**coz that's a relevant news story in 2017!

hmmmm

Meanwhile in the real world last night's by election result:

Britain Elects @BritainElects
Emmbrook (Wokingham) result:
LDEM: 59.7% (+22.3)
CON: 33.3% (-4.5)
UKIP: 3.9% (-11.7)
LAB: 3.0% (-6.1)
LD Gain

John Redwood land. Constituency thought to be about 51% remain.
Lib Dem 1575
Con 879
UKIP 104
LAB 79
Turnout 38% (2637 votes cast out electorate of 6939)

More LD votes than ever previously cast in ward apart from 2015. (Byelections on GE much higher turnout as can see below. 2015 4927 votes cast which roguely must be about 71% turnout) Con vote considerably down on normal as it is. Cons traditionally most likely people to vote unlike Lab/UKIP voters...

GE very different but Redwood should be looking at this nervously.

Ward voting history.
May 2016 result C 1235 LD 1222 Lab 260 Grn 119
May 2015 result C 2156 LD 1731 UKIP 452 Lab 419 Grn 233
May 2014 result C 1085 LD 1074 UKIP 447 Lab 287
May 2012 result C 1202 UKIP 330 Lab 313 LD 291
May 2011 result C 1863 LD 741 Lab 444 UKIP 272
May 2010 result C 2376 LD 1574 UKIP 462 Lab 418
May 2008 result C 1521 LD 788 UKIP 289 Lab 128
May 2007 result C 1307 LD 892 UKIP 317 Lab 138
May 2006 result C 1448 LD 757 UKIP 277 Lab 171
June 2004 result C 1549/1306/1258 LD 774/668/666 UKIP 492/355 Lab 276

Brexiters need to stop attacking people who dare to have a differing opinion and start talking up the economy/Brexit.

The latest hand wringing over Blair borders on paranoia that there is some sort of conspiracy against Brexit when it is merely people offering their views. All very healthy in a democracy . Prior to Blair it was people like Gina Miller and Mark Carney facing the wrath of the "will of the people". Nobody is going to shut up. Its not how democracy works.

I don't think that's news to many ghost...very very slow round here housing wise

Given the importance of housing to the economy and the recent trumpeting of building new homes I'd say its very big news. Particularly when coupled with the cost of living increase. The Times was remain IIRC.

I agree but it's not news to many
My sil is trying to find a house to buy....keeps being gazumped...there's just nothing out there atm
I think brexit will stop the usual Easter rush of house marketing.

Ditto the supermarket increases....for people who have been paying attention this has been happening since July last year....my grocery bill has gone up, as has fuel which is now at it's highest price since Sept 2011.
But!! That's just project fear talking!
Some leavers are going to get a shock when life post brexit doesn't suddenly turn into an episode of "heartbeat"
😒

Housing market here just got back past 2007 levels in last 12months or so. No real sign of decline here yet. Things have been selling well but a number of properties have been reduced lately. Perhaps an early sign of slowing down. We don't need a decline in prices here. A slow down or stagnation whilst wages increase yes, but prices going down is really bad sign (even though personally it probably would work for us rather than against at this moment in time). It's big trouble ahead if prices decline. Less incentive to build for starters...

We would like to move. There are a few reasons we have decided to wait. Brexit uncertainty is one of them.

Massive infrastructure work happening round here so prices are sky rocketing and sales quite fluid. Would help us if we moved to a worse area, but Brexit uncertainty makes us not want to amongst other factors.

Oh btw. Tory letter sent in Stoke says that other Stoke and Newcastle MPs voted to block Brexit. Signed Theresa May.

They didn't.

Very little publicity about this. It is being reported by Stoke Sentinel though.

Feeds the 'they all lie' narrative. Gets Nuttall off the hook. If main parties want to deal with the ukip lies thing they have to clean up own acts or it undermines the point and let's ukip get away with everything by default.

Housing market here was very buoyant pre eu ref
Now it's just the same old houses that have been on the market for some time
Lots of property sales falling through too