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The Brexit Arms.

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surferjet · 10/02/2017 19:35

So.......where were we?

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SemiPermanent · 18/02/2017 21:59

I had to take myself for a lie down earlier Bear!

Also loving Bored's depiction as Tony Blair being Britain's Typhoid Mary - in fact, I think I shall start calling him that from now on Grin

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 18/02/2017 22:09

Oh for goodness sake bear and semi get a room Hmm

Grin

I am still confused...and tired

TheFullMrexit · 18/02/2017 22:11

Pleasant pause on the ref merry goal round. Refreshing to see different words exchanged. Playfully punches bear on arm.

SemiPermanent · 18/02/2017 23:37

Been watching Trump's rally - was v good actually!

He invited some random guy up on stage much to the disgruntlement of the secret service 😂😂

Always makes me laugh too when his theme song comes on at the end - "you can't always get what you want..."
(But you get what you need!)

SouthallGirl · 19/02/2017 09:25

Don't forget to watch Trevor Phillips this Thursday, C4 9pm , "Has Political Correctness Gone Mad?

TheFullMrexit · 19/02/2017 09:42

I saw bit of rally he reminds me of
Christian evangelical speakers. He always says doesn't drink but I wonder if he takes anything else .song makes me laugh too Grin
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I can't believe mandelson right now. Going backwards on immigration.

How did we ever cope pre 2004???? I a. quite sure we had tons of foreign nurses and NHS workers pre 2004. We are being sold immigration line that we desperately needed millions of migrants and yet I can't remember this ever being issues at all pre 2004. And creating policy to get millions of people here was never the plan either. It was a mistake. Top brain surgeons are struggling to get in to UK from round the world but we have to let in as many Hungarian waiters as want to come here.... To quote Steve hilton, Cameron s ex advisor. Who is Hungarian.

SouthallGirl · 19/02/2017 09:52

Just caught Lynn Truss on TV ......... she's hardly an intellectual giant is she, and anyone who repeats the same scripted sentence shows they don't have many thoughts of their own.

howabout · 19/02/2017 09:56

Good article on Trevor Phillips and his views re PC in the Observer today

"....Why I am still a supporter of the Labour party is because I believe fundamentally in solidarity and reciprocity, and I think most on the left have forgotten both of those things.”

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/19/trevor-phillips-i-dont-care-about-offending-people-has-political-correctness-gone-mad-channel-4?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=213986&subid=18573163&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

Big contrast with the dog whistle politics on offer from TB.

SouthallGirl · 19/02/2017 10:10

There is nothing mystical about NHS's current problems: i) fast increase in population and ii) not enough money in the coffers to fund everything that used to be funded. It is known by everyone who works in healthcare, but the public keeps getting bamboozled so that they begin to think that govt is simply depriving the service of money, but now why.

I worked in a large teaching hospital in Paddington, and as far back as 2000 the daily outpatient clinics were FULL to bursting with recently-arrived people, most requiring interpreters. That's just one speciality, and there's a knock-on effect on x-ray and other investigations which all depts need to use, as well as on admin staff who have a big increase in typing up reports and correspondence.

There is little possibility to expand in terms of more doctors taking clinics, because space is finite. You cannot tag on another consulting room, or enlarge the waiting area, or employ an extra typist because there is no space to put them. Even if NHS had the £ to run late-night OP clinics up to, say, 9pm when consulting rooms are empty in clinics, there will be an even bigger run on x-ray, phlebotomy, pharmacy, secretarial, etc.

We are recruiting nurses from overseas but insisting that our own take a uni degree in Nursing. Those nurses that do come to UK to work sometimes bring their families, or they acquire a family while living here. They become users of the NHS too. A quick glance at some areas of England and you can see that overseas nursing staff are nursing other people from overseas a lot of the time.

SouthallGirl · 19/02/2017 10:11

not why*.

SouthallGirl · 19/02/2017 10:19

The Unholy Trinity are back (Iraqi Tone, Manky Mandelson and Crazy Campbell) and we should not underestimate the lengths to which they will go to scupper Brexit. Favours will be called in, favours will be promised.

Prickles123 · 19/02/2017 11:37

It is a bit worrying that Trump feels he needs a rally, though. At this stage in a Presidency fresh from a successful election campaign most presidents feel the rallying is done and they need to concentrate on getting their heads round the job.

ReleaseTheBats · 19/02/2017 13:07

The Trevor Philips article is very interesting.

This sentence (from the journalist) leapt out at me

But what they do point to is Phillips’s increasing frustration with the conviction that if we can only control the expression of ideas, we will all be able to live together in peace and harmony

TheFullMrexit · 19/02/2017 13:42

Straight out of of 1984

TheFullMrexit · 19/02/2017 13:43

Originally north Korea etc

boredofbrexit · 19/02/2017 14:30

Trump held the rally so his words go direct to the people, not via the corrupt media. The people who heard him can relay the word to others and soin enough it will be evident that what is being said (and done) is different to what is being reported.

It is no coincidence that Blair etc have returned. This is not just about UK. The globalists will be throwing everything they can. I'll hazard that Juncker is moving over so one with better connections to Bilderberg/UN etc can be positioned.

Meanwhile TB comes back to weave his polluted spell and his useful idiots swion and fall under. Most on the other thread have already forgotten about Iraq.

SemiPermanent · 19/02/2017 14:41

I'm amazed at how many are apparently prepared to 'hold their nose' etc and align with Blair tbh.

And yet are still banging on about how Boris, TM etc are so horrendous they couldn't possibly bear it.

Typhoid Tony is the very reason that trust in politicians is all but extinct - from day one he spun everything to within an inch of his life.
Only a few months into his D:ream he was spinning and using Diana's death to his own narcissistic ends.

He's a liar who had & has, at best, a very tenuous relationship with the truth.

boredofbrexit · 19/02/2017 15:11

Indeed. The political landscape today is not the same any longer though...he went out for a reason and that reason still stands.

boredofbrexit · 19/02/2017 15:24

Hard dataWink

The Brexit Arms.
howabout · 19/02/2017 15:44

TB is indeed a unifying force Grin

Reckon if you add Mandy and AC to the mix you could get the group unpopularity even higher. Do you think TM and the team pay them to appear on TV on rotation to bolster the Leave resolve?

howabout · 19/02/2017 15:57

A wee bit light entertainment from poetry corner.

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/02/poems-triggering-article-50/

"Nicholas Stone

Mrs May is playing poker. David Davis holds the joker. Jean-Claude Juncker’s going spare. Trump defibrillates his hair.

Daniel Hannan tries to barter NHS for Magna Carta. Sturgeon’s in a tartan bind. Farron’s out of sight and mind.

Philip Hammond’s sweating buckets Over florins, groats and duckets. Diane Abbot’s gone to pieces: From today free movement ceases.

Jezza knows not what to do. Nigel’s drinking from a shoe. Michael’s playing with the matches. Boris sits and grins and scratches."

howabout · 19/02/2017 15:59

Just occurred to me that PH budget is just before Art 50 trigger. Hopefully holding some aces up his sleeve to explain the damp squib in the autumn last year.

SemiPermanent · 19/02/2017 16:19

Lol @ the Hard Facts! That literally every section of the population hates Typhoid Tony
😂

TheFullMrexit · 19/02/2017 16:23

Great poemGrin. It doesn't surprise me how many are willing to hold nose over Blair. If they truly cared and had integrity these same people would already be going mad about oban, merkel etc in the eu. But there was silence, it's a great excuse now they want to something to pick apart may etc. Bottom line is, phoney fakes.