The Brexit Arms - All welcome. :-) :-)

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So .....how are we all this evening?

Oh yes, that's great - so relieved!

Slough is getting fucked by the Tories, not the immigrants.

Mother.

I am sorry but all the evidence points to the mass influx at that time causing inoterlable strain on the hospital.

Wexham has always had a poor reputation, it has many issues YES, but it literally collapsed under the extra strain caused by the open door immigration policy.

If a hospital is failing and unable to cope with the patients it has already - do you then flood it with more service users?
How does that help?

The shutting of doors to women in labour is now common practice but it was not common practice pre 2004.

Mother I still don't feel you have read that Slough Memorandum, I get the feeling you just don't want to listen to the facts, or to understand what happened to communities round here?

The problem is that successive governments have failed to put in the infrastructure needed for the growing population in many areas

When the population exploded in Slough as a result of Blairs lifting of workers rights, the councils head count had gone down. This is because the government had no way of counting these extra people coming into the country. This left the council with a massive short fall of money in every area.
Its easy to see how hospitals were also hit.

1. Blair government took poor areas and literally hit them with a sledge hammer and caused people great hardship

2. If you read the memorandum, if you understood even a teeny modicum of all these issues in the broader sense you would understand, that no government can sufficiently plan for FOM immigration in the UK.

Seek - I get the impression your more interested in doing down the Tories than listening to facts - but again, if this is something you are bothered about - why not google it.

Sadly this episode has gone now but there may be a link on U tube

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007v5bx

"
Immigration: How We Lost Count
Panorama

It's impossible to know how many immigrants enter Britain illegally, but does the government know how many enter lawfully? Government figures claim the population of Slough is falling, but the council claims the opposite is true. Richard Bilton reports on the school where one class has had 40 per cent turnover of pupils and hears from some of Slough's immigrants who say it's time to call a halt"

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/6908390.stm

So many that these illegally rented out sheds and garages are needed to house them all. They have been swept here by border changes across Europe and are now testing how we deal with mass immigration

• "I came here in 1948. I wanted to work in Britain, and I got a job in the brickworks," said Fred Szymaczack, a Pole who says things were very different when he came to Slough.

"When I arrived it was much stricter. The government knew how many people were coming to work here. Now, there's too many. The town can't cope*

• The expansion of the European Union in 2004 has had an enormous effect here as it has across Britain.

Local Polish community leaders say as many as 10,000 Poles have arrived in Slough in three years.

Walk down the High Street and you can literally hear the languages and accents that are changing the make up of this town.

" When it comes to migrants arriving in our towns, it seems we've lost the ability to count.

The government's estimates show Slough's population is decreasing, while the council in Slough reckons it is growing so fast that about one in ten people here are simply missing from the books, not accounted for. And that has a direct consequence for everyone living here.

That is because the government uses the population figure to decide how much money it gives the local council every year.

That money funds three quarters of the services provided by the council. If the population estimate is not accurate, then neither is the pay-out"

" I went for a walk through Chalvey, an area of Slough that has become home to hundreds of new arrivals. One resident, Mohammed Choudary Sr told me if more money does not come from the government, the council has to get tough.

"Chuck them out. It's simple. Just don't let them come in. Don't give them housing. Tell them to go to other places"."

Mother we are turning into the pub bores. Its all there

www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldselect/ldeconaf/82/7121107.htm

If you dont buy that - ^^ go and seek out the poor council workers and tell them you dont buy it.

Mother - the great schools the Grammars. The primary schools were woeful

But don't worry, i read the council memorandum

Luckily I dont have to worry about people like you anymore - we voted out to end this maddness.

Gosh Mother you paint a picture of the UK most of us leavers just don't recognise, all the way from Belgium. Maybe if we move there, the UK will look just as rosy from that distance

I remember Motheroffourdragons from other threads. A very vociferous Remainer, and a snarling supporter of Freedom of Movement of people and to hell if their real intentions were not friendly.

in the spirit of more connects us than divides us I would add her saving grace - she hates Nick Clegg (I think?)

Doesn't everyone?

I hate Nick Clegg and Diane Abbott.
And I would love a G&T.
Is nobody drinking tonight?

I'm in

I've been on the WM thread and I need a drink

I'm having a large beer Tryingtosaveup, still in celebration mode

I guess threads like these never result in anyone changing their position because it takes a long time to arrive at that position, we're all pretty entrenched about such matters. And that's fine. If remain had won the referendum, I'd be sore (for about two weeks) but I'd move on and stop trying to understand their reasons because some things are just too fundamental to people, including us.

I'll join you if I may?
Beer for me.

I'll join you if I may?
Beer for me.

erm thats one for me and a french for my hologram

What, both of you bored?

Hell yeah, double agent, didn't ya know?

I have a girl crush on Cath on the other thread

Another Rye for me