to share with you the croudfund link for the new legal action to stop brexit

[MarieBurnham]

www.crowdjustice.org/case/brexit-for-the-100/

I've only given a tenner, but there are plenty of rich people (unless it's all stealth boasting about dipique candles) here, so we should be able to help.

It's currently at 18.507k and needs 70!

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My understanding is that this case will go someway to making it legally binding

As far as i am concerned the government of the time fucked up

They absolutely mislead huge swathes of leavers and remainers in this county to believe that the vote would be 'binding' when it wasnt

It needs to be sorted now

So some random doesnt pop up in 18months time

OP you have every right to paste this link on here. Don't donate if you don't agree.
Bore off....to the infantilising 'whining children', 'stamping feet' analogies.

If the referendum was to be legally binding it would have needed a super-majority e.g. 60% voting to leave. The current result wouldn't have resulted in a decision to leave. I wish it had been legally binding and then we wouldn't be in this mess.

You realise that's not true don't you?

It is true.

The UK Supreme Court, which has heard a landmark case to decide whether the government can trigger the process of Britain’s exit from the European Union without the parliament's approval, says it will not overturn the result of the Brexit referendum.

parliament has now given it's approval

There was no kids, your stretching the metaphor, its just a divorce hopefully amicable

Hopefully amicable? Given the rhetoric coming from politicians, it's hardly that at the moment...

The Supreme Court is currently meaningless.

Marmitelover55, if there had been a legally binding referendum with a 60% majority and 52% voted to leave we would probably be in a bigger mess. ie a majority wanting to leave and the ruling elite refusing to allow them to. Riots on the street?

The Supreme Court case

The UK Supreme Court, which has heard a landmark case to decide whether the government can trigger the process of Britain’s exit from the European Union without the parliament's approval, says it will not overturn the result of the Brexit referendum

The Supreme Court case was never about that. What do you think it was about?

Sorry JustAnotherSimpleOldNumber , Parliament hasn't given its approval, it was a non binding vote in the house of commons, politically relevant but legally meaningless. Its still in the hands of the court.

The Supreme Court case was never about that. What do you think it was about?

It was to find out if parliment had to vote on the process...

But this has recently happened anyway, making the outcome of the case worthless.

Its still in the hands of the court.

But the court case isn't about whether we leave or not.

It's not legal action to stop Brexit though.
That's clear what the OP hopes it is.

"The Government will implement what you decide"
And the referendum was agreed to in the first place on the basis that it would be advisory.
Right. So does that mean that the mailshot was basically lying to us? If that is the case, my faith in the political establishment is even more fucked than it was before.

Bore off....to the infantilising 'whining children', 'stamping feet' analogies.
Agreed. I can see why people are worried about the Brexit process and the eventual deal. But it's also time that posters stopped implying that anyone who voted leave is stupid or gullible.

That's clear what the OP hopes it is.

Yes as has been stated many times the OP has lied and mislead many people to try and get their money. hypocritical really.

It's up to parliament - you know, our sovereign British Parliament - to decide on whether referendums are consultative or binding and, if so, what the criteria are for the result to be considered binding (simple majority, super majority, minimum turnout etc).

The British constitution is not based in referendums as a basis for executive decision making - hence the mess we are in. Parliament should have be much more careful in its scrutiny of the referendum bill.

On the subject of turnout tiggy there's an argument that voter suppression was a large factor in both the EU referendum and the U.S. election. I was disenfranchised (along with many other British citizens) and many others had their vote effectively suppressed by ineffective arrangements for postal voting.

lum

Then the OP is bang out of luck

The referendum was purely advisory. There was no mandated turnout for the decision. The EU was and is not willing to negotiate (Cameron came home with NOTHING before the referendum) This was all perfectly clear beforehand.

There was and is no defined path for exit. (same as with the scottish ref, which her whinginess wants to re-enact). Voting leave was taking a risk that there was a better way. Voting remain was taking a risk that life outside the EU would be worse than in it.

yes, it was not a simple yes/no question and thus was not suitable for a referendum. Blame Cameron.

you have to be seriously gullible to think that there are believable stats for the split of leave/remain by anything other than area. All the other rubbish floating about (Buzzfeed? you get your information from that? Dear oh dear...) is purely extrapolation from small opinion polls. An extension of the advertising horseshit in the beauty ads, although clearly many believe that too.

BTW despite big turnout, an enormous chunk of the electorate simply didn't care.

*JustAnotherSimpleOldNumber, the court case might not technically be about stopping Brexit but it could give a judgement that in practise does stop Brexit.

For example it could make a judgement that requires the European Court of Justice to become involved. It could require a full act of Parliament to trigger A50 which allows the House of Lords to block it. It could require the 1972 EC Act to be revoked before A50 is triggered. There is so many things that could derail Brexit until after 2020 and mean we have to have another General Election which will be a proxy for a second referendum meaning this country will be ripped apart for the next 5 years.

The way the referendum was set up was decidedly undemocratic. All British citizens should have been allowed to vote.

Suppermummy02 It is very unlikely that that is going to happen.