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The Brexit Arms. Please drink ( & post ) responsibly.

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surferjet · 08/12/2016 14:11

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Kaija · 09/12/2016 15:24

In any case, the story is really about a multi-national running from its tax obligations and seeking haven in the UK. Power to the People.

MangoMoon · 09/12/2016 15:24

Dickhead Self's immediate response was to sneer about shitty jobs though.

There's a whole country full of folk doing these 'shitty' jobs that are apparently 'beneath' people like him btw.

That's one of the things that pisses me off royally about the EU economic migrant thing - the implication that 'us brits' are too good to do these jobs, so we import the labour to do them for us.
Swathes of over qualified & overskilled Eastern Europeans doing our donkey work.
How can that ever be right or ok??

Socialist hand wringing doesn't really tally with what is effectively the enslaving of a people because their average national wage is a fraction of our minimum wage - or does it?

Kaija · 09/12/2016 15:28

How you have managed to turn criticism of companies providing shitty jobs into criticism of the people forced to do them is beyond me. But there seems to be an awful lot of it about.

Marmitelover55 · 09/12/2016 15:39

I think we all want what we think is best for this country and no one voted to make themselves poorer on either side.

I voted to remain because I think that gives our economy the best chance. The fact that the distribution of wealth isn't equal/fair I don't think is related to the EU, I think that's down to our government's policies and the choice to pursue austerity in particular.

I would love to be proved wrong and that leaving the EU will make us all better off, as that seems to be the reality we have to face.

I wonder how we will know if Brexit is a success or failure?

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 09/12/2016 15:54

I dont think we will marmite

Both sides are going to use the same things as evidence that

Everything is great!!

Or

Everything is shit

ElfontheShelfIsWATCHINGYOUTOO · 09/12/2016 15:57

Macdonalds is good news Mango Grin. We can debate the the food and work ethic but over all its not a bad thing, lets face it - if they already had their HQ here and were leaving us, remainers would be all over it.

The fact that the distribution of wealth isn't equal/fair I don't think is related to the EU

I don't think this is a black and white issue, so many factors and no - we cant possibly lay it all at the door of the EU - but in terms of distribution, it seems rather one way from say Poland to the UK in terms of population distribution, tax credits paid to dc who have never set foot in the UK, and so on.

There is no parity across the EU so there has been un equal distribution in so many areas. However I guess if you believe in the EU project and that whilst its extremely chaotic right now, failing, and so on, if we had persevered perhaps in a century or so there could be more parity...I dont believe in the project and I dont want to throw any more people under the bus in the mean time.

ElfontheShelfIsWATCHINGYOUTOO · 09/12/2016 15:59

Perhaps Rufus but at least we can cross the barricades on Tom Hardy Grin

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 09/12/2016 16:01

That is very true elf

Although i may pop a barricade AROUND tom hardy to stop mango getting to him Hmm

ElfontheShelfIsWATCHINGYOUTOO · 09/12/2016 16:03

Grin you could use your huge xmas tree as a barrier?

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 09/12/2016 16:10

Yes ...very good point elf

Trap mango behind that and we wont see her til next christmas...like the cat Sad

Mwah ha ha

ElfontheShelfIsWATCHINGYOUTOO · 09/12/2016 16:23

Grin Maybe you could use it on all Brexiteers too, get us all stuck in it - its large enough.

Hmm
howabout · 09/12/2016 16:54

Kaija in this case McDonalds is volunteering to be more transparent about its non US tax affairs and pay MORE tax than if it had stayed in Luxembourg. Whether that is being driven by the EU Apple case, Trump promising lower US corporate taxes to make repatriation and reinvestment of US company overseas profits possible, nervousness about the stability of the Euro area or Brexit is a moot point.

I agree it has very little to do with unskilled work in the UK but it is very good news for UK accountants and related financial services, even if they miss out on the odd jolly to Luxembourg to audit an EU shell company.

howabout · 09/12/2016 16:57

I am going to have to persuade DD3 to ungraduate from Cbeebies so I can assess this TH you speak of.

MangoMoon · 09/12/2016 17:12

I've only just got phone signal back - actual lolling at the Tom Hardy love scrap.

As with an actual pub, you'll be crying in the toilets Rufus as you watch me disappear off with the lovely Tom at closing time...!!

Kaija · 09/12/2016 17:13

"Kaija in this case McDonalds is volunteering to be more transparent about its non US tax affairs and pay MORE tax than if it had stayed in Luxembourg. "

And if you believe that you'll believe anything. Kindly old Ronald McDonald eh? If they had stayed in Luxembourg they would be highly unlikely to be able to maintain their current dodgy tax arrangements.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 09/12/2016 17:15

Thats probably true mango

I am much too much woman for him Grin

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 09/12/2016 17:16

how

He just seems like a real sweetheart, so self depreciating

He just needs the love of a good woman

I know he has a good woman but i am gooder

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 09/12/2016 17:17

Maybe not as literate

But gooder!!

Grin
RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 09/12/2016 17:19

elf

Grin

The other side indeed!

We're all in this together

MangoMoon · 09/12/2016 19:05

Mango & Tom
4 Eva
Xxx

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MangoMoon · 09/12/2016 19:59

Will 'Twatfink' Self, plebeian-hating toss pot:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/order-order.com/2016/12/09/will-self-big-mac-bigot/amp/?client=safari

Corcory · 09/12/2016 20:07

Kaija - that old 'if you believe that you'll believe anything' statement so often trotted out on these boards to leavers when they have something positive to say. Yawn yawn.

Kaija · 09/12/2016 20:39

I hadn't seen that used here, Corcory. This is not really a Leave issue though; it's about the motivations of a multi-national. If you want to believe that McDonalds are voluntarily paying more tax out of the goodness of their hearts forgive me for thinking you a little naive.

MangoMoon · 09/12/2016 20:46

Who on earth has even suggested that Kaija? Apart from you?

Kaija · 09/12/2016 20:48

See howabout's post of 16:54, Mango