The Fail is now gunning for the GOSH QT lady

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The Great Ormond Street Hospital lady on QT last night is now under attack from the Mail. They are twisting her words and calling for her to be sacked.

Unbelievable.

I am beginning to despair now.

I wouldn't know; I don't read it

What she said was unacceptable.

What the DM and some other media and politicians (including ministers like Javid) are saying is horrifying. In which other democracies do we see attacks like this on an independent judiciary applying the law?

The judges have not said we should remain in the EU. They have said that the UK constitution - which does exist albeit in unwritten form - says that the authority to invoke article 50 lies with Parliament not government ministers. That is all.

O-Kayyy.

As a HCP her words were absolutely incredible if I was her boss I would be asking for her resignation.

Bloody hell, people asking for her resignation or to be sacked, speech and language therapists are like hens teeth - we don't need any more leaving!

Unfortunately, in some professions I do think this would be grounds for a disciplinary if not dismissal.

I don't see it happening here but as I've said, I'm not totally without sympathy yet I was taken aback by what she said.

As a HCP, not that I share her sentiments I wouldn't even air comments like that in the tea room let alone on National telly. It's really inflammatory and not unsurprising she's getting hostile press. While vilification is unacceptable I do think she has brought disrepute to GOSH and her profession by making those remarks on public TV

Initially I thought she had blurted it out under pressure and I was more sympathetic.

However, I have lost sympathy a bit after seeing that she apparently was initially quite pleased with herself; it's only since the hostile reactions became evident that she has apologised.

Rainy I saw that to and took it to mean she spends all her time talking to people like herself. Not a teenager either.

No sympathy whatsoever. What she said was vile and cruel. I haven't seen the DM coverage but she deserves all she gets imo.

Where did she say that?

I have only seen the apology here

I think you're right Autumn

telegraph link (it does say 'allegedly, in fairness.)

She also works with 'trans' children.

I think it's very important to character assassinate a woman who is pointing out the detrimental affect brexit will have on research and funding because then we don't have to talk about the detrimental affect brexit will have on research and funding. Good job!

she said a vile thing and her apology is hollow. i hope she gets the sack, despicable thing to say

Yeah! That's the important thing- go you!

Birdy, can I ask you honestly and with no sarcasm - if a Leaver had said something roughly equivalent, say if they had said 'I hope those who vote Remain end up with their child being seriously ill and can't get treatment because of the population surge caused by immigration' - would you not be saying 'that is a terrible thing to say.' (I'm not saying I believe that statement but to present it as an example of something equally unpleasant but from a different political stance.)

To me, pro leave or pro remain is not the important issue here. You simply can't be in a role like this woman's and shout that sort of statement on national television. At best, it shows extremely poor judgement which isn't really compatable with this line of work.

Eh? I've heard that sort of things from ill informed racists endlessly - (and certainly not followed up by an apology.) I'd ask them where they got their facts from and how they coped with that immigration 'surge' treating their children.

Are you saying you don't think brexit will affect research and funding then or is it that it simply doesn't matter?

The point here though is that a member of the public has been hounded by newspapers for mangling her words. Is that good precedent?
Apparently so!

No, I'm saying it was a really horrible thing to say, regardless of whether your stance was Leave or Remain.

I would agree with your last paragraph except it doesn't seem she did mangle her words: on the contrary I think they were chosen with deliberation and thought and it was only when she realised the 'shock' wasn't the shock of realisation as everyone agreed with her but the shock of a particularly unpleasant statement, that she apologised.

I don't think the woman should be sacked. She is probably very talented at what she does on a day to day basis. Yes, she has been a prat and probably embrassed her employer. I feel a written warning would suffice.

As far as the remainders taking the government to court over article 50 that is their right. People don't lose their civil rights for just been in a very large minority. As a leave voter I feel that a handful of MPs should not make all the decisions relating to Brexit. There is no evidence that leave voters want to restrict freedom of movement or leave the single market. All that was asked was whether the U.K. should leave the Eu.

The people of gilbratar have no of influencing the terms of Brexit as they don't have an MP. Is this fair?

I think she made a couple mistakes.

She identified her employer, mistake one, because anything you then say is nailed to your employer's door in the eyes of the public.

She made an ill judged nasty comment without thinking on national television, mistake number two, because this isn't her workmates, her social circle that might agree with her, but the nation, which is very obviously a whole different audience.

Should she be sacked? That's up to GOSH, but I imagine her associating them publicly with her comments will not endear her to them nor will the potential loss of donations from people who are voicing their intent to stop donating. These are consequences that any intelligent adult should be considering prior to spouting off on national television. If they sack her, I would say it was justified. If they do not, I imagine she will at the very least have some type of warning in her file over it.

She has a private practice as well, and the cynic in me says if she really cared about the NHS ...

she didnt mangle her words, she knew exactly what she was saying. a hcp for children has wished for some children to get ill, disgraceful and an incompatible view with her profession.

You simply can't be in a role like this woman's and shout that sort of statement on national television

That's the nub isn't it - its her role.

Great. Let's get her fired. There are plenty of equally well qualified and experienced hcps who are able to leap into action and take over her caseload. Clearly therewill be no effect at all on the vulnerable people she works with.

In fact let's hang her. The apology is completely irrelevant. This is UKIP Britain now.