To ask again who is happy about the direction Brexit is heading

[Bearbehind]

I wasn't going to start another of these threads after the second ended last night but today's ruling in the High court is pretty significant so I thought I'd ask again

Are you happy with the current state of play?

No, I'm not happy - Brexit is divisive, based on lies, and economically detrimental. At least it will now receive proper scrutiny in parliament - which should be something for both leavers and remainers alike to celebrate.

Great post Draylon, especially your point about Strictly . A poster on another Brexit thread a few weeks ago suggested that a good proportion of Leave voters think that we have 'left' already, so parliament could just decide to never mention the matter again, and pretend that its all done and dusted Sadly, Farage may have something to say about it he's always got bloody something to --say-

Draylon my war time generation Mum and Dad aged 85 and 86 voted remain and believe strongly in a united Europe, given what happened.

My mum, wartime generation, was remain primarily for reasons of international security. Ime They were the generation that believed in solidarity in many things.

My nan lost her father in the Somme trenches but happily gave food to German POWs during WWII. She was no angel or anything out of the ordinary I can tell you!

I wonder how the vote would go if there was a referendum on the abolition of taxation? Or being exempt for tax for the services you don't use or agree with. Schools, religious schools, NHS, the military.

It seems the referendum is being touted in the UK by many as the most democratic and true voice of the people.

P.S. In any case, evident this time of year, despite the huge lip service, governments don't seem to properly support former military personnel or else the charity sector wouldn't need to sell so many poppies etc. to raise funds and rely on donations to support them. I'm always amazed at this dereliction of responsibility. The state recruits and uses personnel and then afterwards hands them over to rely on the charity sector. No wonder May was encouraging the purchase of poppies. Everything raised is replacing the money that should be coming from the state for the aftercare of personnel and their families.

I think we should come out because that is what the majority of the population wants.

52% of the turnout voted leave, which is 37% of the electorate and about 26% of the population. This is very very far from being "the majority of the population".

I voted remain. I am happy that the court ruling allows Parliament scrutiny. It is absolutely nothing to do with trying to overturn the referendum decision and I have heard that Miller is in fact a leaver.

I am disgusted by and scared of some of the reactions of supposedly educated politicians, the gutter press, hard core Brexit supporters and abusive and threatening social media users. For people in government not to defend the independence of the judiciary is appalling, and harks back to the 1930s rise of fascism.

I am frightened.

(And I still think that leaving the EU is the wrong course of action for many reasons).

I think when people refer to majority they mean majority out of those who voted - to be honest if people can't be arsed voting or registering to vote, they shouldn't get a say anyway imo

But it's still not the "will of the people" or the "majority of the population". Voting majority or majority of the turnout, yes.

I think it's an important distinction because sections of the media and May herself are using these phrases to quash debate.

I'm still really upset we're leaving the EU. We are leaving the EU no matter what happens. I think this wrong direction will be devastating for the UK..

How we do it and who's in charge of it matters too, but it's such a mess I don't think anyone is able to make it ok.

It's not the "will of the people". It's the will of less than half the people.

If May said the majority of voters the argument would then be a slim majority of voters

The will of the people is a catchphrase we all know that it means that the majority of those who voted (and bothered to vote as many didn't) voted to leave

And that is what is it voting was open to all uk citizens over the age of 18 (apart from those that had not resided in the UK in the last I think 15 years and prisoners)

I think a lot of people think it is 52% of the whole population who voted Leave.

EU citizens who have lived here for decades and have contributed hugely were also not permitted a vote.

I voted to stay. Decision was made. I Accept that. We leaving. Why on earth has this gone to court. Whats the point of voting if the court can over rule it. Does that mean if you vote in an election and for example tory got in, labour can go to court and over rule the vote?

I voted to stay. Decision was made. I Accept that. We leaving. Why on earth has this gone to court. Whats the point of voting if the court can over rule it. Does that mean if you vote in an election and for example tory got in, labour can go to court and over rule the vote?

Argh! My facepalm gif didn't work!

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I don't think people do

As they will know that under 18 you can not vote

They may quote 52% voted to leave

Unless we want to claim as many do that all leave supporters are that stupid

This petty squabbling by poor losers makes Britain a laughing stock.

I doubt it. Allowing a referendum with a binary choice and no semblance of a plan makes us a laughing stock. Watching the pound sink while repeating (ad nauseum) 'the people have spoken' makes us a laughing stock. The sight of senior politicians repeating phrases like 'Brexit means Brexit' makes us a laughing stock, etc. etc.

I agree it is not that we voted out it is that the government had no plan going forward

How could this even not be considered when the date was set

Stupid.
It's a negotiation, the only advance plan could be to come out in the best deal possible. If exiting the single market couldn't be done without unacceptable pain then a lesser exit would be chosen. This bellyaching for a definitive plan will just mean closing down options. And who said a drop in the pound is a bad thing? It had settled. Now all the idiots are rejoicing its ascent when all it means is the hedge funds and traders are making money on the movement.

Leaving the EU makes Britain a laughing stock!

Topsy77 - Gina's husband will be doing all right then!!

Sorry, that was meant in reply to User1478....