I've never met a brex regret

[TaleSpin]

Those reputed regretters...they must hang out in the psyches of rabid Remainers, for I sure ain't met one!

I agree 100% Captain.
Piglet - what exactly is patronising about Captain's comment?

Elements and Captain could perhaps form a mutual appreciation society....

You're not really covering yourself in glory with your 'arguments' TaleSpin.

Gosh, I wouldn't look to mumsnet in a quest for glory, how funny!

Gosh, I wouldn't look to mumsnet in a quest for glory, how funny

You know MN has a policy on goady threads?

Quite. It started goady, by opening with a post using the phrase 'rabid remainers' and OP has really only come back to prod the hornet's nest a few times, without adding much to the debate.

I don't know any regretful leavers. But then, as far as I know, I don't know anyone who voted leave.

Plenty goading on this thread. Seems to peak at nap times. As you were, ladies.

Well, that's fair enough, Piglet, there is no reason that all Remainers should agree on everything or all the Leavers. I think it's really clear that both groups had widely disparate views and reasons for voting why they did, which is why it is a bit galling to read the goady 'Boden Remoaners' stuff just as I expect it's irritating on the other side to read the 'thick racist' accusations.

Anyway, to continue the OP's crappy school play analogy - no, if my kid auditioned and so did another and the other kid won it fair and square then I wouldn't complain. But if it turned out that little Johnny got the part because his parents offered £350 to finance the production and now they've withdrawn it so there won't be any costumes or props and the whole thing has fallen into total disarray because the director and the music teacher and the dance teacher have all resigned and claimed its nothing to do with them so no one knows what the fuck is happening but Johnny's parents are smiling gaily and insisting that everything is BRILLIANT and totally going to PLAN - yeah, I'll probably be looking for some explanations.

Or it too late for that and this thread is just for insults now?

Love that captain

I was thinking more of the analogy that the Headteacher had arranged a referendum of the children on whether the national education system should go back to the 70s and lose all the systems put in place since to protect children, to monitor achievement, to share best practise between schools, lower budgets etc. because he wanted to shut up some of the teachers who tended to nostalgia, wanting to bring back "This Island Story" and moaning about the interference of politicians. The 70s campaigners won it on promises of sweeties and an end to phonics and frontal adverbials. The school play analogy kicks in with the plot based on the behaviour of the teachers when they have to try and implement the Edxit. The beauty of this analogy is that both analogy and reality feature Gove...

And as all of us who actually went to school in the 70s know, schools were actually pretty shit.......

But if the school play didn't happen one year, then it wouldn't be the end of the world, and there would probably be one next year. In the case of the Referendum, whatever the outcome, it is going to take a number of years at least to resolve, if not a generation.

But if we are just being insulting then, just to please the crowd, the leavers are apparently the precariat, "an angry, global underclass called the Precariat, so called because it comprises people who are precariously living at the edge of poverty and unemployment and feeling socially exposed to the forces of globalization, immigration and robotization of jobs. The Precariat is the class that has voted for Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump in the US and now for Brexit. They mistrust the establishment and have deep fear of others — namely foreigners and migrants."

Don't blame me, I didn't provide the ammunition for us to be viewed like this overseas. www.chinadailyasia.com/opinion/2016-07/13/content_15461906.html

Yeah, that's where the analogy falls down Peregrina because the school play not happening isn't a national catastrophe which will have enormously negative consequences for the country which will be felt for generations...

Perhaps he should have added to a "deep fear of others, namely foreigners, migrants," the "Mark Warner /Jamie Oliver/ Boden brigade"

Nah, Leave voters are brave, remember? They have no deep fears.

I do so love the 'we were angry, you wouldn't listen, we've taken back control' when mixed with 'well it's not ok for you to be angry, we aren't listening to you' sentiment

I voted Remain and regret my vote, as the behaviour of so many Remainers on this site has been so obnoxious and toxic, that I can't bear to be associated in any way with people like that. I have this awful feeling that I shared something in common with them and I don't want to.

Mumsnet does Brexit - a short play

Papayas: (patronisingly) "you don't realise that the Daily Mail were pro Remain, right"

Various: Eh? No, they weren't. Why are you making things up?

Papayas: "You're inexplicably angry. You're all behaving in a bitter cringey, cringely way.

Various: WTAF does that mean?

Others: You patronising remainers are obnoxious and toxic.

The End

(Crappy) School play alternative scenario: what if it turned out that the music teacher and dance teachers had stifled creativity and as a result of the disarray, some new organisers, hitherto unsung, stepped into the breach and began to rebuild the drama department and over time the once-passed-over child (assuming he was better behaved than his parent) went on to great things?

Brave, I would still want some answers from the lying fuckers who deceived everyone and then abdicated responsibility - they should be held accountable and not allowed to get away with what they did, in my opinion.

LastGirl, does that mean you'd rather feel you have something in common with Britain First and the EDL?

It would be great brave

Except what's happened is the kids led by the history and re teachers have told headmaster that the drama dept is shit, after a show of hands in assembly the headmaster has decided to sack the drama teacher. You take is over headmaster they say. No, says headmaster, I liked the drama dept, it will change for you but one of you have to change it. History teacher and re teacher bugger off saying they ain't touching the drama dept with a barge pole. Fine, says the geography teacher, I'll do it - come on kids, won't this be better??!!?!? Cut to kids all with crossed hands and vague hopes.

Strictly, I'm worried that the EU might end up being Ofsted in this scenario and I'll have to change my allegiance 😬

Hahahaha captain it's not far off. Everyone is the enemy.

And wth are crossed hands? Crossed fingers der

But, for a really vacuous analogy, we have all managed to get a lot of mileage out of it!