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The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Is it about to all implode?

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RedToothBrush · 10/07/2016 18:51

THE BREXIT FALLOUT OUT CONTINUES - THREAD SEVEN!

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The Story So Far – Blue Corner
Johnson & Gove stabbed Cameron & Osborne. They then won a big vote about something or other. I forget the details. I’m not sure it matters anymore.

Johnson got then stabbed by Gove. Johnson joined Leadsom. Gove got stung by his mate Boles who was trying stab Leadsom, and he ended up getting stabbed by just about everyone.

Where We Are Now – Blue Corner
Out of the ashes of the mess that the posh boys made, emerged two unexpected contenders to become the Torchbearer for the Tories.

#Team May
The Home Secretary, and the former figure of hate, is now looking like she might be the choice of sanity and the one who might just be able to save us from ourselves. She is the choice of the left and centre. The left and centre now being anyone who thinks ‘The 1950s were very nice, but actually we’d prefer not to go back there. A return to the 1970s is far enough, thanks’.

She is supported by just about the entire mainstream media (which in itself is quite an achievement – The Sun and The Guardian being united in editorial opinion) and the majority of Conservative MPs. We don’t know this, but she quite possibly unites the Labour Party on the subject too.

#Team Leadsom
The Junior minister made good, and has outmanoeuvred all her superiors in the cabinet to throw her hat in the ring. The trouble is that she’s either somewhat naïve, a bit of an arsehole or a scheming liar. And that’s the charitable version.

She is emerging as the Sarah Palin of the UK, and has some dubious looking Tea Party links. In the era of post fact politics Project Fear is now Project Smear. Of course this makes her Mrs Umbridge, the poor apple pie lover, bullied by the political elite and media establishment, rather than a fruit cake.

BUT
Underestimate her appeal at your peril. She has a big field of unicorns somewhere that we’ve not been able to track down on googlemaps so far, and she is preparing to unleash them.

She is the choice of the Right. She is supported by much of the depths of twitter, Louise Mensch, UKIP, Arron Banks, BNP and Britain First.

Oh and that tax return? Hmm

Our future fate is to be decided by 150,000 Conservative Members (two thirds of whom are men and roughly 50% of whom are over sixty).

How we look back at David Cameron’s tweet on the 4th May 2015 with such fondness:
Britain faces a simple and inescapable choice - stability and strong Government with me, or chaos with Ed Miliband.

Send me the link for the petition to ‘Come Back Dave, all is forgiven’. We have at least six weeks of this particular shower of shit to look forward to, before the next one hits.

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The Story So Far – Purple Corner
Many years ago, Nigel Farage founded the idea and started his one man campaign for the UK to leave the EU. (Except he didn’t. It was someone else’s idea. He just took over and took the credit for it). He became the poster boy for the Leave campaign, despite not being affiliated with it. He stood and claimed victory, without a shot fired.

As he said to the European Parliament with impeccable manners and good grace, ‘We aren’t laughing now’. To be fair to him, we weren’t. We were all shouting ‘FUCK OFF’ instead. After securing his £7000 pay rise as an MEP, he decided enough was enough, and it was time to ‘get his life back’ (he got sacked) and look for a career as a contestant on reality TV shows.

I hear Help I’m a Celeb have offered half a million for his services.

Where We Are Now – Purple Corner
Quicker than you can say, ‘Oh Thank God(win) for that’, we are already are starting to miss ‘Our Nige’, the cheeky chappy from next door. Instead the options are looking bleak, as candidates start to crawl out from under their rocks. The spectre of Arron Banks and his call to arms for ‘freedom’ lurks in the shadow.

For those of you unfamiliar with Mr Banks so far in this story, he’s one of UKIP’s biggest donors. He and his mate Andy Wigmore run an offshore insurance company out of Gibraltar. Banks, was head honcho of Leave.eu and one of his other mates, hypnotist Paul McKenna, gave advice on how to influence people with propaganda. Banks and Wigmore have some connections with Belize. Bank’s ex-wife was accused of being one of the KGB’s best agents. They are now divorced and she has a harassment order out on him. He does not like the ‘Uk elite’ and takes it personality.
Sounds like just the kind of guy, you’d love to move in as a neighbour.

This is the very definition of shit.

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The Story So Far – Red Corner
Once upon a time, there was a man named Blair. He waved a lot of flags said ‘Cool Britannia’ and smiled a lot. But Tony turned out to not be such a good ‘un. He didn’t play by the rules and got caught out. Blair was made to appear on national television to defend himself. He cried, and told us how he couldn’t sleep at night, but actually he did do the right thing and everyone is still wrong and we are all picking on him.

Does he need to go away and think about it for a while? Say, in a locked room for several years?

Where We Are Now – Red Corner
The WMD that Bliar lost in Iraq finally turned up in Labour HQ on 24th June. However, no one has been prepared to let off a controlled explosion yet. Apparently there is something of an aversion to Big Red Buttons (otherwise know to us simple folks as ‘Agreeing on Something’ and ‘Making Decisions’) within the party.

Corbyn, the champion of Momentum, has been carrying on as if nothing is happening, there is no problem and its everyone else is wrong, insisting that since he had a mandate from the people 10 months ago and it’s all still honky dory. He’s doing his job just fine and leading is well, a bit of an inconvenience to his rally schedule.

The Unions seem to have declared war on Tom Watson. His name has been added to the ever growing list of ‘traitors’.

Across the country action has been taken against these ‘traitors’. Normally this behaviour would be classed as ‘thuggery’ and ‘intimidation’. In post-fact Britain though, this is now acceptable, if it’s from the Left. Violence against Labour members is only disgusting if it is carried out by the right, you see.

Apparently, as the Momentum chief says, ‘winning’ is only a ‘small bit’ of democracy that matters to ‘political elites who want to keep power themselves’.

Obviously political gains that help and protect the interests of the working classes and poor are surplus to requirements. I guess their ultimate aim is to win no Labour seats at all then. Good stuff. We are headed in the right direction for that one.

Angela Eagle left her doorstep, and went on the telly after a week of refusing to make a decision to say ‘Ok I’m going to stand to remove a man who refuses to make decisions’. Apparently she is doing this to ‘Heal Labour’.

Someone break it to her, that if Labour gets its legs blown off by Corbynite, the chances of them healing, are somewhat remote.

To make matter worse, Corbyn disagrees with how you get on the ballot paper, and might not be it at this rate. Or it might end up in court. Like article 50.

Owen Smith is the other pretender to the Crown of Roses. We know who he is now. He’s err… He’s still welsh!

What do we reckon the chances of Labour surviving as one party are? Zero to none? This is more like wading through shit than a shower of it.

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The Story So Far – Yellow Corner
Tumbleweed

Where We Are Now – Yellow Corner
Everyone’s been praying for a ruddy miracle to end this torture and give the country an opposition party. Finally, Tim Farron, has awoken, removed his splinters from his arse, got off the fence in response to this. Amid growing rumblings of a complete political realignment and fleeing Labour and Conservative MPs, he says:

‘Hey folks, this political turmoil looks fun, can we join in too?!’

FACEPALM

No shit left to share.

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The consensus of opinion is that we might be a tiny teeny bit screwed.
Did someone mention the EU? EU? Oh fuck that, we’ve just about forgotten all that now!
Bigger fish to fry.
British ones of course.

We need really do need Gandalf to come save us from this madness.

Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

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TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 11:42

The BBC's Norman Smith says Andrea Leadsom is expected to announce shortly that she is pulling out out of the Conservative leadership contest.

Chalalala · 11/07/2016 11:42

BBC saying it too

Shock

so... is May the new PM? or do we get Gove - The Comeback?

InShockReally · 11/07/2016 11:43

I am all Grin at that rumour, that's made my day.

TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 11:43

I'd like to see Arron Banks' face about now (not really but can you imagine how furious he must be??)

InShockReally · 11/07/2016 11:43

It'll make my day more if it's not a rumour of course...

GingerIvy · 11/07/2016 11:43

I don't think they can bring Gove back, can they?

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2016 11:43

Osborne will stay I feel too.

Johnson and Gove. No. And probably not Leadsom now. She was likely to get something by challenging. If she quits because she can't hack it, then that's the end of her political career.

Interesting this comes out straight after May's speech. I'd bottle it after that!

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TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 11:43

Angela has a leadership logo. I'm hoping it's just a dodgy twitter pic but it looks to be pink...

The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Is it about to all implode?
GingerIvy · 11/07/2016 11:44

I wonder - are they going to hand it to May and then risk a GE while Labour is falling apart ?

flippinada · 11/07/2016 11:45

Well, it's on the BBC now so...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36763208

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2016 11:45

They said May PM in two weeks if Leadsom quits.

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TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 11:45

Headline on BBC news channel now. Think it must be certain. Daily Politics on at 12 will probably get into ramifications if News Channel doesn't.

derxa · 11/07/2016 11:46

I could cry with happiness

BoreOfWhabylon · 11/07/2016 11:46

I'm no tory but TM is impressive and a proper grown up in charge would be no bad thing.

Cometh the hour, cometh the woman.

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2016 11:46

Well I think that's just outmanoeuvred Banks! He doesn't have 6 weeks of this turmoil to exploit!

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ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe · 11/07/2016 11:47

Told you she would!!!

Didn't I?
I just thought it would be in a few days time.

nauticant · 11/07/2016 11:47

Why does AL's logo say Arghh!?

On second thoughts, don't answer that.

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2016 11:47

BBC talking with a lot of certainty, which is unlike them.

Normally more cautious.

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Chalalala · 11/07/2016 11:49

Why does AL's logo say Arghh!?

can't unsee it now Grin

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2016 11:49

Guardian saying this:
If Andrea Leadsom does pull out, three things could happen.

1 - Theresa May could become prime minister very soon, perhaps even later today.

2 - May could be confirmed as party leader, but with David Cameron staying on for perhaps a few more weeks.

3 - The Conservative party board could decide to allow another candidate to enter. It would almost certainly be Michael Gove, who came third. The board could take the view that members are entitled to a choice between a leave candidate and a remain candidate.

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TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 11:49

Norman Smith just described Angela Eagle's leadership bid as 'a sideshow'. Says she'll have to talk to Cameron about a handover, he suspects it'll be done before summer recess.

I'm not a Tory either, and under normal circumstances (ie anything up to June 23rd), it's unlikely I would find myself agreeing with Theresa May about anything, but she is the only senior politician in Westminster aside from Tim Farron who seems keen to actually get on and do something, so I think at the moment we have to take what we can get.

TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 11:51

Cameron wanted to stick around for the G20 in September when Obama says farewell, but he probably won't get the option (BBC)

MrsLupo · 11/07/2016 11:51

I think some LP members and supporters are more concerned with having an ideologically pure Labour Party than one which is electable.

While that may be true in some quarters (every party has extremists), I think in general terms it is more that there is a high level of disagreement about what 'electable' looks like.

Chalala, to answer your question, I agree, and said just this upthread in fact, that the hostility of the British media is Corbyn's biggest stumbling block. It is all very well to be angry at the extraordinary level of misrepresentation he enjoys, but as long as it's the case, it constitutes a very real and perhaps insurmountable problem for him. I think there are grassroots things that can be done to undermine the right-wing media, and there are plenty of motivations completely separate from Corbyn or even party politics generally to do that, but Rome wasn't built in a day and what might be a viable strategy ordinarily may be too little, too late in these politically fast-moving times. I don't know. What I do know is that every time someone who hasn't bothered to read widely or seek out the facts for themselves repeats the mendacious bile of the right-wing media, they become part of the problem, and I have no respect for that.

My best-case scenario, and thank you for asking, is that someone sufficiently high profile - and Angela Eagle could have been the perfect choice - climbs down and says, 'You know what, emotions have been running high, everyone is upset about Brexit, this coup got out of hand and took on a life of its own, and I am ashamed of my part in it. It is true that Corbyn has a huge popular mandate and the CLPs have confidence in him. As MPs we should respect that and get behind him now.' If she wants to be a sacrificial lamb, that would be a better kind of one to be imo.

Chalalala · 11/07/2016 11:51

Well, this is about the best possible outcome out of all the dreadful possibilities we were facing, isn't it.

Theresa May has come out looking very good out of all of this. I have a feeling she'll be a trusted and popular PM, in the short run at least.

Wonder how long she can make us all forget what an awful, human-rights denying person she is.