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The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Is it about to all implode?

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RedToothBrush · 10/07/2016 18:51

THE BREXIT FALLOUT OUT CONTINUES - THREAD SEVEN!

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The Story So Far – Blue Corner
Johnson & Gove stabbed Cameron & Osborne. They then won a big vote about something or other. I forget the details. I’m not sure it matters anymore.

Johnson got then stabbed by Gove. Johnson joined Leadsom. Gove got stung by his mate Boles who was trying stab Leadsom, and he ended up getting stabbed by just about everyone.

Where We Are Now – Blue Corner
Out of the ashes of the mess that the posh boys made, emerged two unexpected contenders to become the Torchbearer for the Tories.

#Team May
The Home Secretary, and the former figure of hate, is now looking like she might be the choice of sanity and the one who might just be able to save us from ourselves. She is the choice of the left and centre. The left and centre now being anyone who thinks ‘The 1950s were very nice, but actually we’d prefer not to go back there. A return to the 1970s is far enough, thanks’.

She is supported by just about the entire mainstream media (which in itself is quite an achievement – The Sun and The Guardian being united in editorial opinion) and the majority of Conservative MPs. We don’t know this, but she quite possibly unites the Labour Party on the subject too.

#Team Leadsom
The Junior minister made good, and has outmanoeuvred all her superiors in the cabinet to throw her hat in the ring. The trouble is that she’s either somewhat naïve, a bit of an arsehole or a scheming liar. And that’s the charitable version.

She is emerging as the Sarah Palin of the UK, and has some dubious looking Tea Party links. In the era of post fact politics Project Fear is now Project Smear. Of course this makes her Mrs Umbridge, the poor apple pie lover, bullied by the political elite and media establishment, rather than a fruit cake.

BUT
Underestimate her appeal at your peril. She has a big field of unicorns somewhere that we’ve not been able to track down on googlemaps so far, and she is preparing to unleash them.

She is the choice of the Right. She is supported by much of the depths of twitter, Louise Mensch, UKIP, Arron Banks, BNP and Britain First.

Oh and that tax return? Hmm

Our future fate is to be decided by 150,000 Conservative Members (two thirds of whom are men and roughly 50% of whom are over sixty).

How we look back at David Cameron’s tweet on the 4th May 2015 with such fondness:
Britain faces a simple and inescapable choice - stability and strong Government with me, or chaos with Ed Miliband.

Send me the link for the petition to ‘Come Back Dave, all is forgiven’. We have at least six weeks of this particular shower of shit to look forward to, before the next one hits.

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The Story So Far – Purple Corner
Many years ago, Nigel Farage founded the idea and started his one man campaign for the UK to leave the EU. (Except he didn’t. It was someone else’s idea. He just took over and took the credit for it). He became the poster boy for the Leave campaign, despite not being affiliated with it. He stood and claimed victory, without a shot fired.

As he said to the European Parliament with impeccable manners and good grace, ‘We aren’t laughing now’. To be fair to him, we weren’t. We were all shouting ‘FUCK OFF’ instead. After securing his £7000 pay rise as an MEP, he decided enough was enough, and it was time to ‘get his life back’ (he got sacked) and look for a career as a contestant on reality TV shows.

I hear Help I’m a Celeb have offered half a million for his services.

Where We Are Now – Purple Corner
Quicker than you can say, ‘Oh Thank God(win) for that’, we are already are starting to miss ‘Our Nige’, the cheeky chappy from next door. Instead the options are looking bleak, as candidates start to crawl out from under their rocks. The spectre of Arron Banks and his call to arms for ‘freedom’ lurks in the shadow.

For those of you unfamiliar with Mr Banks so far in this story, he’s one of UKIP’s biggest donors. He and his mate Andy Wigmore run an offshore insurance company out of Gibraltar. Banks, was head honcho of Leave.eu and one of his other mates, hypnotist Paul McKenna, gave advice on how to influence people with propaganda. Banks and Wigmore have some connections with Belize. Bank’s ex-wife was accused of being one of the KGB’s best agents. They are now divorced and she has a harassment order out on him. He does not like the ‘Uk elite’ and takes it personality.
Sounds like just the kind of guy, you’d love to move in as a neighbour.

This is the very definition of shit.

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The Story So Far – Red Corner
Once upon a time, there was a man named Blair. He waved a lot of flags said ‘Cool Britannia’ and smiled a lot. But Tony turned out to not be such a good ‘un. He didn’t play by the rules and got caught out. Blair was made to appear on national television to defend himself. He cried, and told us how he couldn’t sleep at night, but actually he did do the right thing and everyone is still wrong and we are all picking on him.

Does he need to go away and think about it for a while? Say, in a locked room for several years?

Where We Are Now – Red Corner
The WMD that Bliar lost in Iraq finally turned up in Labour HQ on 24th June. However, no one has been prepared to let off a controlled explosion yet. Apparently there is something of an aversion to Big Red Buttons (otherwise know to us simple folks as ‘Agreeing on Something’ and ‘Making Decisions’) within the party.

Corbyn, the champion of Momentum, has been carrying on as if nothing is happening, there is no problem and its everyone else is wrong, insisting that since he had a mandate from the people 10 months ago and it’s all still honky dory. He’s doing his job just fine and leading is well, a bit of an inconvenience to his rally schedule.

The Unions seem to have declared war on Tom Watson. His name has been added to the ever growing list of ‘traitors’.

Across the country action has been taken against these ‘traitors’. Normally this behaviour would be classed as ‘thuggery’ and ‘intimidation’. In post-fact Britain though, this is now acceptable, if it’s from the Left. Violence against Labour members is only disgusting if it is carried out by the right, you see.

Apparently, as the Momentum chief says, ‘winning’ is only a ‘small bit’ of democracy that matters to ‘political elites who want to keep power themselves’.

Obviously political gains that help and protect the interests of the working classes and poor are surplus to requirements. I guess their ultimate aim is to win no Labour seats at all then. Good stuff. We are headed in the right direction for that one.

Angela Eagle left her doorstep, and went on the telly after a week of refusing to make a decision to say ‘Ok I’m going to stand to remove a man who refuses to make decisions’. Apparently she is doing this to ‘Heal Labour’.

Someone break it to her, that if Labour gets its legs blown off by Corbynite, the chances of them healing, are somewhat remote.

To make matter worse, Corbyn disagrees with how you get on the ballot paper, and might not be it at this rate. Or it might end up in court. Like article 50.

Owen Smith is the other pretender to the Crown of Roses. We know who he is now. He’s err… He’s still welsh!

What do we reckon the chances of Labour surviving as one party are? Zero to none? This is more like wading through shit than a shower of it.

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The Story So Far – Yellow Corner
Tumbleweed

Where We Are Now – Yellow Corner
Everyone’s been praying for a ruddy miracle to end this torture and give the country an opposition party. Finally, Tim Farron, has awoken, removed his splinters from his arse, got off the fence in response to this. Amid growing rumblings of a complete political realignment and fleeing Labour and Conservative MPs, he says:

‘Hey folks, this political turmoil looks fun, can we join in too?!’

FACEPALM

No shit left to share.

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The consensus of opinion is that we might be a tiny teeny bit screwed.
Did someone mention the EU? EU? Oh fuck that, we’ve just about forgotten all that now!
Bigger fish to fry.
British ones of course.

We need really do need Gandalf to come save us from this madness.

Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

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Showmethewaytogohome · 12/07/2016 12:22

What a shocker - so if you don't support Jezza it is open season threats? I have seen at first hand how some of his supporters (and it is the minority) act. My DH is concerned if I stand up to them locally that we may be subject to their bullying. More reason to expose the truth in my view

RedToothBrush · 12/07/2016 12:24

www.independent.co.uk/voices/here-s-why-a-new-party-of-the-centre-ground-is-doomed-to-fail-a7132366.html
New centre party doomed to fail

Momentum are posting this about the Labour leadership rules.

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DoubleMum · 12/07/2016 12:24

JRM acts like a character out of Blackadder 3.
Apologies for the NHS link, it popped up on my facebook page this morning, I should have checked it

Showmethewaytogohome · 12/07/2016 12:30

The way I read that it doesn't actually mean he is automatically put onto the ballot - it's not really clear.

RedToothBrush · 12/07/2016 12:34

Michael Crick ‏@MichaelLCrick · 11m11 minutes ago
I am aware of 5 different sets of legal advice on Corbyn & ballot paper - 3 helpful to him; 2 not helpful. No doubt there's other advice too

The lawyers appear to agree with you Showme - by disagreeing.

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TheBathroomSink · 12/07/2016 12:34

Will Corbyn say anything about AE.... ?

Will Corbyn say anything, in public and accessible to the majority of the country, about anything?

Showmethewaytogohome · 12/07/2016 12:35

Or am I being stupid. I would have hoped it would be clear with a statement that the incumbent would automatically be put on the ballot in the case of x and y but in the case of z etc. But it doesn't. Who writes these rules? Do they need help?

GingerIvy · 12/07/2016 12:37

I would have more sympathy for JC if he was actually engaging. He seems to be in hibernation mode, which frustrates me. If he wants to fight it, then by God get out there and get the media's attention and fight it. But hunkering down and not engaging just doesn't help anyone.

Showmethewaytogohome · 12/07/2016 12:38

I suspect Corborg is being plugged into the Borg and once re-energised will be at a rally near you soon.

The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Is it about to all implode?
GingerIvy · 12/07/2016 12:38

Show Grin Love it.

TheBathroomSink · 12/07/2016 12:40

Who writes these rules? Do they need help?

If you make rules clear and unequivocal, you lose your chance to argue the toss if you happen to be on the wrong side...

TheBathroomSink · 12/07/2016 12:42

JC doesn't even have to get the media's attention, does he? He's got this huge grassroots support, and they've all got access to social media (as does he) but I'm not seeing people furiously retweeting his words. They retweet each other with their 'support JC' hashtags, but nothing directly from him.

Unless he's been on snapchat again, because I still don't do that.

TheBathroomSink · 12/07/2016 12:42

— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV)
July 12, 2016
I understand from a good source that Corbyn appears to have enough votes on NEC to make it through to the leadership ballot automatically

and after all those lawyers worked so hard, too!

Chalalala · 12/07/2016 12:42

Momentum and the Corbynites are starting to seriously piss me off with their highly selective concern for democracy. And bad faith - of course they're sticklers for "the rules" when the rules have been badly designed and a loophole gives their faction a massive unintentional advantage!

New centre party doomed to fail

They could be right. Also because Theresa May's platform is decidedly centre-ground, so there's not much room to disagree there. I mean, there is room obviously, but on the detail rather than on the basic philosophy.

I actually think that Corbyn has the right idea and that Labour needs to renew itself with truly left-wing policies, to energise support and mark themselves as different. He's just doing it the wrong way, or he's the wrong person to do it, or both.

TheBathroomSink · 12/07/2016 12:44

— Jim Pickard (@PickardJE)
July 12, 2016
Labour NEC is really split on leadership rules: Some estimate 17:15 for Corbyn. Others say 16:16. Or anti-Corbyn majority if secret ballot.

SwedishEdith · 12/07/2016 12:47

Is Giles Fraser really naive? Does he not understand that Labour has been infiltrated?

TheBathroomSink · 12/07/2016 12:48

— Carl Dinnen (@carldinnen)
July 12, 2016
NEW; 3 Labour sources tell me the Leadership tried to remove Jonathan Ashworth from his NEC position today, but were blocked by the Shad Cab

Showmethewaytogohome · 12/07/2016 12:50

Chala Agreed. The party has to continue to be broad church. I would be glad of more left wing objectives BUT you can not force people to turn. I am getting more angry by the day. I feel they are holding the party and the country to ransom and their tactics are deplorable.

Interestingly when I stand up to their trolling - they NEVER respond. It is as if they have been briefed. This isn't random at all.

merrymouse · 12/07/2016 12:50

Who writes these rules? Do they need help?

They might not have foreseen a situation where an incumbent leader would struggle to get the necessary votes but would still want to stand.

TheBathroomSink · 12/07/2016 12:51

Oh my word, JC has issued a statement, and it got picked up by the mainstream media:
twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/752832413332541440

Jim Waterson ‏@jimwaterson 53s53 seconds ago
Corbyn criticises death threats to Eagle and says he's had some himself.

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Showmethewaytogohome · 12/07/2016 12:55

Does he not see that just as Nige is in some way culpable for the rise in racist attacks post Brexit he has to bear some responsibility about death threats to members of his party?

You create the climate...you stir the shit and the idiots start to run riot

TheBathroomSink · 12/07/2016 13:03

Labour's NEC:
Jeremy Corbyn MP - Leader of the Labour Party
Tom Watson MP - Deputy Leader of the Labour Party
Diana Holland - Treasurer
Glenis Willmott MEP - European Parliamentary Labour Party (EPLP) Leader
Jasmin Beckett - Young Labour
Jon Ashworth MP
Jon Trickett MP
Rebecca Long-Bailey MP
Keith Birch [Unison]
Jamie Bramwell [UCATT]
Jennie Formby [Unite]
Andi Fox [TSSA]
Jim Kennedy [Unite]
Andy Kerr [CWU]
Paddy Lillis [USDAW]
Martin Mayer [Unite]
Pauline McCarthy [BFAWU]
Wendy Nichols [Unison]
Cath Speight [GMB]
Mary Turner [GMB]
Socialist Societies and BAME Labour
James Asser
Keith Vaz MP
Johanna Baxter
Ann Black
Ellie Reeves - NEC Vice-chair
Christine Shawcroft
Darren Williams
Pete Willsman
Cllr Ann Lucas
Cllr Alice Perry
Margaret Beckett MP
Shabana Mahmood MP
Dennis Skinner MP

Corbyn gets to vote on his own fate, according to the Mirror. Guardian earlier suggested he wouldn't be able to.

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