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The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Is it about to all implode?

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RedToothBrush · 10/07/2016 18:51

THE BREXIT FALLOUT OUT CONTINUES - THREAD SEVEN!

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The Story So Far – Blue Corner
Johnson & Gove stabbed Cameron & Osborne. They then won a big vote about something or other. I forget the details. I’m not sure it matters anymore.

Johnson got then stabbed by Gove. Johnson joined Leadsom. Gove got stung by his mate Boles who was trying stab Leadsom, and he ended up getting stabbed by just about everyone.

Where We Are Now – Blue Corner
Out of the ashes of the mess that the posh boys made, emerged two unexpected contenders to become the Torchbearer for the Tories.

#Team May
The Home Secretary, and the former figure of hate, is now looking like she might be the choice of sanity and the one who might just be able to save us from ourselves. She is the choice of the left and centre. The left and centre now being anyone who thinks ‘The 1950s were very nice, but actually we’d prefer not to go back there. A return to the 1970s is far enough, thanks’.

She is supported by just about the entire mainstream media (which in itself is quite an achievement – The Sun and The Guardian being united in editorial opinion) and the majority of Conservative MPs. We don’t know this, but she quite possibly unites the Labour Party on the subject too.

#Team Leadsom
The Junior minister made good, and has outmanoeuvred all her superiors in the cabinet to throw her hat in the ring. The trouble is that she’s either somewhat naïve, a bit of an arsehole or a scheming liar. And that’s the charitable version.

She is emerging as the Sarah Palin of the UK, and has some dubious looking Tea Party links. In the era of post fact politics Project Fear is now Project Smear. Of course this makes her Mrs Umbridge, the poor apple pie lover, bullied by the political elite and media establishment, rather than a fruit cake.

BUT
Underestimate her appeal at your peril. She has a big field of unicorns somewhere that we’ve not been able to track down on googlemaps so far, and she is preparing to unleash them.

She is the choice of the Right. She is supported by much of the depths of twitter, Louise Mensch, UKIP, Arron Banks, BNP and Britain First.

Oh and that tax return? Hmm

Our future fate is to be decided by 150,000 Conservative Members (two thirds of whom are men and roughly 50% of whom are over sixty).

How we look back at David Cameron’s tweet on the 4th May 2015 with such fondness:
Britain faces a simple and inescapable choice - stability and strong Government with me, or chaos with Ed Miliband.

Send me the link for the petition to ‘Come Back Dave, all is forgiven’. We have at least six weeks of this particular shower of shit to look forward to, before the next one hits.

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The Story So Far – Purple Corner
Many years ago, Nigel Farage founded the idea and started his one man campaign for the UK to leave the EU. (Except he didn’t. It was someone else’s idea. He just took over and took the credit for it). He became the poster boy for the Leave campaign, despite not being affiliated with it. He stood and claimed victory, without a shot fired.

As he said to the European Parliament with impeccable manners and good grace, ‘We aren’t laughing now’. To be fair to him, we weren’t. We were all shouting ‘FUCK OFF’ instead. After securing his £7000 pay rise as an MEP, he decided enough was enough, and it was time to ‘get his life back’ (he got sacked) and look for a career as a contestant on reality TV shows.

I hear Help I’m a Celeb have offered half a million for his services.

Where We Are Now – Purple Corner
Quicker than you can say, ‘Oh Thank God(win) for that’, we are already are starting to miss ‘Our Nige’, the cheeky chappy from next door. Instead the options are looking bleak, as candidates start to crawl out from under their rocks. The spectre of Arron Banks and his call to arms for ‘freedom’ lurks in the shadow.

For those of you unfamiliar with Mr Banks so far in this story, he’s one of UKIP’s biggest donors. He and his mate Andy Wigmore run an offshore insurance company out of Gibraltar. Banks, was head honcho of Leave.eu and one of his other mates, hypnotist Paul McKenna, gave advice on how to influence people with propaganda. Banks and Wigmore have some connections with Belize. Bank’s ex-wife was accused of being one of the KGB’s best agents. They are now divorced and she has a harassment order out on him. He does not like the ‘Uk elite’ and takes it personality.
Sounds like just the kind of guy, you’d love to move in as a neighbour.

This is the very definition of shit.

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The Story So Far – Red Corner
Once upon a time, there was a man named Blair. He waved a lot of flags said ‘Cool Britannia’ and smiled a lot. But Tony turned out to not be such a good ‘un. He didn’t play by the rules and got caught out. Blair was made to appear on national television to defend himself. He cried, and told us how he couldn’t sleep at night, but actually he did do the right thing and everyone is still wrong and we are all picking on him.

Does he need to go away and think about it for a while? Say, in a locked room for several years?

Where We Are Now – Red Corner
The WMD that Bliar lost in Iraq finally turned up in Labour HQ on 24th June. However, no one has been prepared to let off a controlled explosion yet. Apparently there is something of an aversion to Big Red Buttons (otherwise know to us simple folks as ‘Agreeing on Something’ and ‘Making Decisions’) within the party.

Corbyn, the champion of Momentum, has been carrying on as if nothing is happening, there is no problem and its everyone else is wrong, insisting that since he had a mandate from the people 10 months ago and it’s all still honky dory. He’s doing his job just fine and leading is well, a bit of an inconvenience to his rally schedule.

The Unions seem to have declared war on Tom Watson. His name has been added to the ever growing list of ‘traitors’.

Across the country action has been taken against these ‘traitors’. Normally this behaviour would be classed as ‘thuggery’ and ‘intimidation’. In post-fact Britain though, this is now acceptable, if it’s from the Left. Violence against Labour members is only disgusting if it is carried out by the right, you see.

Apparently, as the Momentum chief says, ‘winning’ is only a ‘small bit’ of democracy that matters to ‘political elites who want to keep power themselves’.

Obviously political gains that help and protect the interests of the working classes and poor are surplus to requirements. I guess their ultimate aim is to win no Labour seats at all then. Good stuff. We are headed in the right direction for that one.

Angela Eagle left her doorstep, and went on the telly after a week of refusing to make a decision to say ‘Ok I’m going to stand to remove a man who refuses to make decisions’. Apparently she is doing this to ‘Heal Labour’.

Someone break it to her, that if Labour gets its legs blown off by Corbynite, the chances of them healing, are somewhat remote.

To make matter worse, Corbyn disagrees with how you get on the ballot paper, and might not be it at this rate. Or it might end up in court. Like article 50.

Owen Smith is the other pretender to the Crown of Roses. We know who he is now. He’s err… He’s still welsh!

What do we reckon the chances of Labour surviving as one party are? Zero to none? This is more like wading through shit than a shower of it.

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The Story So Far – Yellow Corner
Tumbleweed

Where We Are Now – Yellow Corner
Everyone’s been praying for a ruddy miracle to end this torture and give the country an opposition party. Finally, Tim Farron, has awoken, removed his splinters from his arse, got off the fence in response to this. Amid growing rumblings of a complete political realignment and fleeing Labour and Conservative MPs, he says:

‘Hey folks, this political turmoil looks fun, can we join in too?!’

FACEPALM

No shit left to share.

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The consensus of opinion is that we might be a tiny teeny bit screwed.
Did someone mention the EU? EU? Oh fuck that, we’ve just about forgotten all that now!
Bigger fish to fry.
British ones of course.

We need really do need Gandalf to come save us from this madness.

Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

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The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Is it about to all implode?
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TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 20:43

It's a fight for the Labour brand now - it's like Buck's Fizz.

We can work with this. Which one's Cheryl?

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2016 20:44

Anyway. Mark Carney is around tomorrow, giving evidence to the Treasury Select Committee. Sometime around 10am.

What do you reckon? Interest rate change?

The real question of course, is will Corbyn vote against the official policy?

Of course he bloody will. Its his big vote for the month. You know the one where he has to rebel against what he's supposed to do.

A bit like last month.

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SwedishEdith · 11/07/2016 20:45

Corbyn is clearly Bobby G.

flippinada · 11/07/2016 20:45

Showme I'm already a member. I almost wish I wasn't, just so I could rejoin.

Muddlingalongalone · 11/07/2016 20:47

Just catching up - wow what a day!
Interesting to see what happens wrt cabinet reshuffle. Fantasy cabinet is fun but what I'd like to happen vs what I think will happen is too far apart.
My take - May def shrewd enough to get rid of Hunt, unless she wants to force the contract through in which case she's got an easy scapegoat. Don't think he'll last long there though. Like the idea of Sarah Wollaston.
Why do the prison service like Gove? Wonder whether Mr May likes him? Might be working closely if privatisation (more privatisation?) on the cards.
Agree Hammond & Grayling & Crabb will be top jobs.
Definitely leadsom as families/children's minister. Roast dinners all round & party unity.
I think Osborne will be offered something but don't think it will be a top rung job. Maybe Dwp?
Johnson - friends close & enemies closer??? Don't want him causing trouble from the backbenches - maybe something working closely with Gove....

I also had the same history teacher with the closeness of extreme left & right wingers.

Labour are a shambles - I hope theories about Owen Smith being "corbyn's opt out" are true.
PMSL at the Cuban solidarity event
Angela Eagle must think she's taking one for the team but will end up unemployed at general election if not before
A quieter day tomorrow - perhaps

enochroot · 11/07/2016 20:48

These threads move on faster than I can type.
I've been Labour all my life but these last few weeks have brought me to the point of giving up and not being able to focus on where I should now place my trust? loyalty? hope?
Finding the right word is difficult because being a Labour voter has been sort of my identity, how I define myself in a way.
I've been feeling adrift but I think this series of threads is helping me to ground myself again.

merrymouse · 11/07/2016 20:48

I wonder where we would be if David Milliband had won?

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2016 20:49

I will admit that I don't know enough about Trident to make any kind of insightful comment on it.

Trident: An expensive version of Schrödinger's cat but with bloody great big missiles.

That's my non-insightful comment on Trident.

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Peregrina · 11/07/2016 20:49

A quieter day tomorrow - perhaps

I went to bed yesterday thinking that today would be relatively quiet with AE dithering, and just a couple of manifestos published. Whoops!

GingerIvy · 11/07/2016 20:49

I don't think Crabb will get a high profile job at all. He's marked his card with the sexting thing. I would be surprised if May wants to be associated with him right now. She's got to keep things above board right now.

flippinada · 11/07/2016 20:50

I feel the same enochroot

GingerIvy · 11/07/2016 20:51

I also don't think she will put Leadsom high up. I think Leadsom has outed herself as unable to handle publicity and pressure, and has lost a huge portion of the public's confidence, and May will place her back from the public view for awhile.

Muddlingalongalone · 11/07/2016 20:52

Not sure about interest rate change unless change of pm makes a difference and thought they were independent?

Mpc meeting due for weds anyway so why would they bring it forward?

Hope Mark Carney isn't resigning

TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 20:52

red no, not tomorrow, the MPC meet on Thursday when they might cut to 0.25%, tomorrow is just regular updating, I believe.

I too think that's his aim, but I don't see how it makes him look any better, other than with his fans. How can he lead a party when he votes against its policies?

In purple corner news, someone else is standing for Ukip leader, after they change the rules to keep out everyone who was expected to get it. The lucky candidate is MEP Jonathan Arnott who is 35 and used to be a teacher. He's been an MEP for two years.

DetestableHerytike · 11/07/2016 20:53

Hang on, this thread is thirty pages in less than thirty hours? Blimey!

flippinada · 11/07/2016 20:53

Must admit I didn't see Andrea Leadsom's climb down coming, although I'm cautiously pleased by it - just wondering what will happening next. Hoping (vainly?) that she doesn't get put in a position to do any harm.

Ugh at the juxtaposition of Crabb and sexting. Not a pleasant image to have in one's head.

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2016 20:53

I wonder where we would be if David Milliband had won?

Well I'm hoping we'd still have been in the UK and NI however, given what the last three weeks have been like, I fear in that in that parallel dimension with David Miliband at the helm we've been over run by zombies and been evacuated to Siberia for our own safety.

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GingerIvy · 11/07/2016 20:53

Never heard of Arnott, but then the only UKIP person I had heard of was Farrage previously. Grin

BestIsWest · 11/07/2016 20:57

Me too flippinada and enochroot. Been a Labour member since I was 18.

I really don't know what to think any more but I'm getting fed up of having to defend Corbyn.

Showmethewaytogohome · 11/07/2016 20:57

The thing is if the momentum driven CLP's do deselect a number of MPs' they don't have to stand down. It just means that they can not stand for the party at the next GE. If there isn't a GE for sometime there is little they can do and the MP's could switch side which in marginal seats will affect the party greatly. They (momentum) are so simplistic it is scarey

TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 20:58

Sorry, CarneyWatch was not meant to alarm, the appearance is entirely routine.

I also don't expect Leadsom to get anything much, and I can see Crabb being consigned to the back benches for a while in punishment.

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2016 20:59

Uhoh. More trouble in the US

BREAKING: Multiple people, including police officer, shot outside Michigan courthouse

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TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 21:01

Surely if CLPs start deselecting Labour MPs, and they defect to other parties (Co-operative, I think has been mentioned), Labour would lose their role as Opposition?

merrymouse · 11/07/2016 21:01

I think that trident might be a taste of JC's general style of 'leadership' - Policies formulated by him according to his principles for his supporters, with no consultation with the PLP - or at best take it or leave it and vote with your conscience but with no official platform.