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The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Is it about to all implode?

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RedToothBrush · 10/07/2016 18:51

THE BREXIT FALLOUT OUT CONTINUES - THREAD SEVEN!

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The Story So Far – Blue Corner
Johnson & Gove stabbed Cameron & Osborne. They then won a big vote about something or other. I forget the details. I’m not sure it matters anymore.

Johnson got then stabbed by Gove. Johnson joined Leadsom. Gove got stung by his mate Boles who was trying stab Leadsom, and he ended up getting stabbed by just about everyone.

Where We Are Now – Blue Corner
Out of the ashes of the mess that the posh boys made, emerged two unexpected contenders to become the Torchbearer for the Tories.

#Team May
The Home Secretary, and the former figure of hate, is now looking like she might be the choice of sanity and the one who might just be able to save us from ourselves. She is the choice of the left and centre. The left and centre now being anyone who thinks ‘The 1950s were very nice, but actually we’d prefer not to go back there. A return to the 1970s is far enough, thanks’.

She is supported by just about the entire mainstream media (which in itself is quite an achievement – The Sun and The Guardian being united in editorial opinion) and the majority of Conservative MPs. We don’t know this, but she quite possibly unites the Labour Party on the subject too.

#Team Leadsom
The Junior minister made good, and has outmanoeuvred all her superiors in the cabinet to throw her hat in the ring. The trouble is that she’s either somewhat naïve, a bit of an arsehole or a scheming liar. And that’s the charitable version.

She is emerging as the Sarah Palin of the UK, and has some dubious looking Tea Party links. In the era of post fact politics Project Fear is now Project Smear. Of course this makes her Mrs Umbridge, the poor apple pie lover, bullied by the political elite and media establishment, rather than a fruit cake.

BUT
Underestimate her appeal at your peril. She has a big field of unicorns somewhere that we’ve not been able to track down on googlemaps so far, and she is preparing to unleash them.

She is the choice of the Right. She is supported by much of the depths of twitter, Louise Mensch, UKIP, Arron Banks, BNP and Britain First.

Oh and that tax return? Hmm

Our future fate is to be decided by 150,000 Conservative Members (two thirds of whom are men and roughly 50% of whom are over sixty).

How we look back at David Cameron’s tweet on the 4th May 2015 with such fondness:
Britain faces a simple and inescapable choice - stability and strong Government with me, or chaos with Ed Miliband.

Send me the link for the petition to ‘Come Back Dave, all is forgiven’. We have at least six weeks of this particular shower of shit to look forward to, before the next one hits.

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The Story So Far – Purple Corner
Many years ago, Nigel Farage founded the idea and started his one man campaign for the UK to leave the EU. (Except he didn’t. It was someone else’s idea. He just took over and took the credit for it). He became the poster boy for the Leave campaign, despite not being affiliated with it. He stood and claimed victory, without a shot fired.

As he said to the European Parliament with impeccable manners and good grace, ‘We aren’t laughing now’. To be fair to him, we weren’t. We were all shouting ‘FUCK OFF’ instead. After securing his £7000 pay rise as an MEP, he decided enough was enough, and it was time to ‘get his life back’ (he got sacked) and look for a career as a contestant on reality TV shows.

I hear Help I’m a Celeb have offered half a million for his services.

Where We Are Now – Purple Corner
Quicker than you can say, ‘Oh Thank God(win) for that’, we are already are starting to miss ‘Our Nige’, the cheeky chappy from next door. Instead the options are looking bleak, as candidates start to crawl out from under their rocks. The spectre of Arron Banks and his call to arms for ‘freedom’ lurks in the shadow.

For those of you unfamiliar with Mr Banks so far in this story, he’s one of UKIP’s biggest donors. He and his mate Andy Wigmore run an offshore insurance company out of Gibraltar. Banks, was head honcho of Leave.eu and one of his other mates, hypnotist Paul McKenna, gave advice on how to influence people with propaganda. Banks and Wigmore have some connections with Belize. Bank’s ex-wife was accused of being one of the KGB’s best agents. They are now divorced and she has a harassment order out on him. He does not like the ‘Uk elite’ and takes it personality.
Sounds like just the kind of guy, you’d love to move in as a neighbour.

This is the very definition of shit.

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The Story So Far – Red Corner
Once upon a time, there was a man named Blair. He waved a lot of flags said ‘Cool Britannia’ and smiled a lot. But Tony turned out to not be such a good ‘un. He didn’t play by the rules and got caught out. Blair was made to appear on national television to defend himself. He cried, and told us how he couldn’t sleep at night, but actually he did do the right thing and everyone is still wrong and we are all picking on him.

Does he need to go away and think about it for a while? Say, in a locked room for several years?

Where We Are Now – Red Corner
The WMD that Bliar lost in Iraq finally turned up in Labour HQ on 24th June. However, no one has been prepared to let off a controlled explosion yet. Apparently there is something of an aversion to Big Red Buttons (otherwise know to us simple folks as ‘Agreeing on Something’ and ‘Making Decisions’) within the party.

Corbyn, the champion of Momentum, has been carrying on as if nothing is happening, there is no problem and its everyone else is wrong, insisting that since he had a mandate from the people 10 months ago and it’s all still honky dory. He’s doing his job just fine and leading is well, a bit of an inconvenience to his rally schedule.

The Unions seem to have declared war on Tom Watson. His name has been added to the ever growing list of ‘traitors’.

Across the country action has been taken against these ‘traitors’. Normally this behaviour would be classed as ‘thuggery’ and ‘intimidation’. In post-fact Britain though, this is now acceptable, if it’s from the Left. Violence against Labour members is only disgusting if it is carried out by the right, you see.

Apparently, as the Momentum chief says, ‘winning’ is only a ‘small bit’ of democracy that matters to ‘political elites who want to keep power themselves’.

Obviously political gains that help and protect the interests of the working classes and poor are surplus to requirements. I guess their ultimate aim is to win no Labour seats at all then. Good stuff. We are headed in the right direction for that one.

Angela Eagle left her doorstep, and went on the telly after a week of refusing to make a decision to say ‘Ok I’m going to stand to remove a man who refuses to make decisions’. Apparently she is doing this to ‘Heal Labour’.

Someone break it to her, that if Labour gets its legs blown off by Corbynite, the chances of them healing, are somewhat remote.

To make matter worse, Corbyn disagrees with how you get on the ballot paper, and might not be it at this rate. Or it might end up in court. Like article 50.

Owen Smith is the other pretender to the Crown of Roses. We know who he is now. He’s err… He’s still welsh!

What do we reckon the chances of Labour surviving as one party are? Zero to none? This is more like wading through shit than a shower of it.

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The Story So Far – Yellow Corner
Tumbleweed

Where We Are Now – Yellow Corner
Everyone’s been praying for a ruddy miracle to end this torture and give the country an opposition party. Finally, Tim Farron, has awoken, removed his splinters from his arse, got off the fence in response to this. Amid growing rumblings of a complete political realignment and fleeing Labour and Conservative MPs, he says:

‘Hey folks, this political turmoil looks fun, can we join in too?!’

FACEPALM

No shit left to share.

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The consensus of opinion is that we might be a tiny teeny bit screwed.
Did someone mention the EU? EU? Oh fuck that, we’ve just about forgotten all that now!
Bigger fish to fry.
British ones of course.

We need really do need Gandalf to come save us from this madness.

Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

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The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Is it about to all implode?
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tiggytape · 11/07/2016 13:58

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GingerIvy · 11/07/2016 13:59

I think one of the main reasons TM is being installed as PM very quickly (rumour is by tomorrow) is to avoid the shouts of GE. Move her in and get things going.

merrymouse · 11/07/2016 14:00

John Trickett seems to be the person calling for a GE and he is pro-Corbyn.

Genuine question - do we know what 'labour' thinks about anything at the moment?

GingerIvy · 11/07/2016 14:05

And what happens if Labour splits right while they're pushing for a GE?

The mind boggles.

Margrethe · 11/07/2016 14:06

From my perspective, there would be little good to come out of a GE. We really don't need any more drama at the moment. It seems to me that we have ended up with the best candidate in the field anyway (far better than Corbyn, Borris, Gove or Leadsome). The likely outcome would be an even greater Conservative majority, more faffing around, and money spent while our soon to be ex-EU partners have their patience tested even further.

For me, after the last three weeks, this looks like a good result. I am willing to give TM my support and I wish her well.

nauticant · 11/07/2016 14:07

FFS They can't even put together an Opposition, and they're asking for a GE? Who the hell is authorising that?

It will give the Labour leadership the chance to hold rallies, make speeches, demand things, do some crowd-pleasing denouncing, and be seen to be fighting the good fight. That's so much more attractive than spending all that time in Parliament doing steady and boring political stuff.

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2016 14:09

Sorry, I expect I'm being hopelessly naïve. But I still see a GE with a Lib Dem win as a possible way of staying in the EU. If they campaigned on a Remain manifesto and won (big if, I realise), they would have a democratic mandate to ignore the referendum?

You are naïve. Even a big swing to the Lib Dems won't achieve that. May's pitch today was squarely at just right of centre. To stop support going to the Lib Dems (which it has).

I'm not terribly impressed at calls for an early GE now. Though its worth remembering UKIP also have no leader too. So they are not prepared for it.

The best shot at stopping Brexit, I think still lies in the Lords, but it depends on how they feel about that. I do not think this option is a likely one. I do think Brexit will happen I'm afraid.

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nauticant · 11/07/2016 14:10

Shaping Brexit would be about a million times more productive than trying to stop it.

Imagine attempting that and failing. The result would be the kind of hard Brexit that would make Leadsom look a bit wet.

merrymouse · 11/07/2016 14:11

It'll be just like the eighties! "Maggie, Maggie, Maggie oops May, May, May, out, out, out!"

Margrethe · 11/07/2016 14:14

Shaping Brexit would be about a million times more productive than trying to stop it.

This is the wisest thing I have read on Mumsnet in several weeks, nauticant. I couldn't agree more.

MrsLupo · 11/07/2016 14:15

Though its worth remembering UKIP also have no leader too.

Something tells me the prospect of a general election might be enough to tempt our Nige out of retirement.

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2016 14:17

Remember how David Cameron announced he would stand down as PM so a Brexiteer could "steer the ship".

Are there any left?

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CrystalMcPistol · 11/07/2016 14:18

Nope. They all departed in the first lifeboats.

CrystalMcPistol · 11/07/2016 14:19

'Something tells me the prospect of a general election might be enough to tempt our Nige out of retirement.'

Oh Gawd! Sad

CrystalMcPistol · 11/07/2016 14:19

He's 'retires' in the same way Barbara Streisand does.

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2016 14:19

nauticant I think that's where May is at.

A few clear and reasonable plans and no more unicorns will calm remainers down.

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Unicornsarelovely · 11/07/2016 14:20

Wow - what a morning! Thank you for the thread. I guess this one will be full by the end of the day!

Nauticant - I agree completely with your last two posts. While Article 50 may not ever actually be served, I think any decision on actual Brexit will be very quiet and the best option is to hope for some sort of fudge which is sort of EEAish...

I don't know if Nige will stand but I think AB has already made it very clear that he will anyway. It will be alarming and interesting to see if UKIP are actually able to put candidates together - it has been a historical problem for them to have anyone (other than Nigel) who could be allowed out in public at all, and it is worth remembering that their only MP is a Tory defector (who apparently AB loathes).

TheBathroomSink · 11/07/2016 14:21

Green MP - and leadership candidate - Caroline Lucas said: “The case for an early general election (is) clearer than ever. Must not be a prime ministerial coronation.”

We forgot the Greens are sans leader too (or we just forgot the Greens altogether)

If an election looks likely, NF will be back like a shot.

nauticant · 11/07/2016 14:21

Are there any left?

Looking at how the mighty have fallen it's probably now down to Priti Patel.

Peregrina · 11/07/2016 14:21

At the moment, the hard right Leave people must be feeling as disenfranchised as those who voted Remain. I noticed that although TM said Brexit means Brexit, she didn't mention what sort of Brexit she was aiming for. Chris Grayling made a statement, and didn't mention Brexit at all.

merrymouse · 11/07/2016 14:23

The problem with stopping Brexit, even legally, is that the person who stops Brexit has to go against 17 million people and all the constituencies that effectively voted for Brexit. I cannot see any politician doing that. (Although no harm in paying lip service to the idea if no risk of actually having to do it).

Peregrina · 11/07/2016 14:23

They [Brexit leaders] all departed in the first lifeboats.
Grin Grin

MrsLupo · 11/07/2016 14:25

Are there any left?

Gisela Stuart GrinGrinGrin

CrystalMcPistol · 11/07/2016 14:26

Gisela is looking around calling 'Coooeeee, anyone there? Anyone?'

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