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The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Who is trying to outmanoeuvre who?

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RedToothBrush · 07/07/2016 16:21

Don't worry we've all lost track.

In the Blue Corner
It started out with Cameron and Osborne trying to win the battle of the Tories, but they got stung in a UK wide vote. Some of us thought it was about the 'EU'. Instead it has turned out it was an internal Tory Bitch fight between some old Oxford and Eton mates, whilst for others a protest vote at being disenfranchised.
Gove and Johnson stabbed Cameron & Osborne in the back to run for Team Leave. Then they won when they didn't expect to. And there was no Plan. Uh Oh. Then it all started to go really wrong.
Cameron quit in disgust. Johnson went all President Churchill, before he also got stabbed by Gove (possibly with the assistance of the dark influence of Osborne).
We now have a Tory Smackdown with the shadowy influence of the Media Barons in the background.

#Team Gove has been doing their best with the knives. This is a mission to stab as many Tory MPs in the back as possible in order to become PM. Sponsored and supported by Murdoch

#Team Leadsom has been selling more unicorns and trying to pretend her CV and tax return are completely transparent. Think positive and the economy will be just fine. She is the homeopathy of politics. Sponsored and supported by Arron Banks, Leave.eu, UKIP and Britain First.

#Team May has been threatening to deport everyone if the EU don't play nice. Sponsored and supported by The Daily Mail's Dacre

In The Purple Corner
Tragically, it appears that not only do UKIP have a Plan A, they also have outwitted everyone by having Plan B. Yes that’s right TWO plans.
Farage has swanned off –sacked—for a life on CBB so they are looking for a new leader.
The potential candidates are all equally loathsome. They include Arron Banks himself, a suspended member of the party and several other people with an uncanny ability to put their foot in their mouths.
If this wasn't horrible enough, Team Leadsom is increasingly starting to look like a UKIP take over bid of the Conservative Party, which might be a neat way of avoiding a leadership battle of their own considering the quality of the candidates on offer.

In short, its a bit like a Bad Dystopian Movie that invokes Godwin, set in 2016 Westminster. Except its real.
In the Red Corner
Meanwhile the WMD has finally gone off in the Labour Camp, as Chilcot has been published. However the Chicken Coup rattles on regardless.

Corbyn is STILL clinging on, putting in a good claim for the Westminster 'Charlie off Casualty' Award. He has however had his Big Moment in the Commons. Which was a bit of a let down really. ...

The Unions have been trying to talk some sense into everyone. Meanwhile everyone else is has given up and are now just praying for a ruddy miracle to end this torture and give the country an opposition party.

Angela Eagle is still outside for the 5th day in a row, going "I will stand. Soon. If he doesn't quit" The BBC now qualify for a discount deal at the local Travel Lodge.

We FINALLY know who the fuck Owen Smith is! He's a Welsh MP and sounds like he's not completely away with the political fairies.

George Galloway appears to be trying to make a late bid to be included on the ballot paper for any leadership election.
Bliar's cried. We didn't. Chilcot took over 2 million words to tell us everything we already knew. As well as the fact that Mi6 like Nicholas Cage a lot.

The Cult of Momentum are still worshiping their Dear Leader by sending death threats to PR companies they suspect of disloyalty. Somehow they still manage not to get the title of the most vile pressure group in the UK.

And I suppose I should ask, when will a50 be triggered....? And by whom?

All these questions and more.
Tin foil hats now available upon request

Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

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GingerIvy · 09/07/2016 18:45

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/08/andrea-leadsom-revolutionary-michael-gove-tory-leadership-conservatism

"The problem with Leadsom is that she’s a revolutionary with no vision for the future, just a hankering for the past. Her derision for maternity leave is terrifying, her vote against mitochondrial donation – the fertility technique termed “three person babies” by its sensationalist critics – seems Luddite. She is, of course, anti abortion. Despite being a government minister at the time, she promoted the bill on sex-selective abortion proposed by the Tory MP Fiona Bruce – a move that threatened to move the burden of criminality from doctors to pregnant women."

GingerIvy · 09/07/2016 18:45

Oh, she is definitely "for" banker bonuses.

TheBathroomSink · 09/07/2016 18:46

She'll just deny she said it. Or more likely she will say that there's no reason for the EU to remove financial passporting, bit like with tariffs.

Because unicorns.

And that's pretty much the level she's operating at right now.

GingerIvy · 09/07/2016 18:47

Everything I read that AL seems to believe in threatens women's rights.

Wordsaremything · 09/07/2016 18:48

Soooo.....

  1. . Is loathsome really as stupid as she seems or
2 Is she really rather clever, and managing the media along the lines of Trump? Or
  1. My first thought this morning (I thank you) Palin in disguise?

I just don't know. Hoping for -1, but scared shitless it's 2 .

TheBathroomSink · 09/07/2016 18:55

I can't see that it's an act. I think she's a combination of 1 and 3. People who've worked with her do not have good things to say about her. She's hardly being backed by leading lights of the Conservative party, she can't handle the media, she's out of her depth on the economics and finance stuff, which I think just backs up how massaged her CV was.

Everything I read that AL seems to believe in threatens women's rights.

Yes. This. But don't expect the Tory membership to give a fuck about that.

Floisme · 09/07/2016 18:56

Right now, I don't think it matters whether she's stupid or not. That might come into play later but at the moment, all that matters is whether she's articulating the mood of the 150,000 tory members.

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe · 09/07/2016 19:02

I'm listening to LBC and Beverly Turner is all, "She gets it, she know's what my life is all about, she is a mother, she knows what hard work is, she did a bad interview but she will learn, she's so great because she's a mother".

Well I don"t want someone to learn how to be in government while negotiating for the lives of millions.

I'm a mother, I'm certainly not fit to be PM.

squoosh · 09/07/2016 19:04

Beverly Turner's husband James Cracknell was a vocal and visible supporter of Zac Goldsmith's London mayoral campaign. Bev and Jim would seem to be a well matched couple Wink

GingerIvy · 09/07/2016 19:05

That's just frightening.

TheBathroomSink · 09/07/2016 19:07

I remember when Beverley Turner used to do the lifestyle features for F1 when it was on ITV. They were cringe-inducing. I see she hasn't improved.

Wordsaremything · 09/07/2016 19:10

Yes indeed, flo.
I think she will appeal to that demographic.

SwedishEdith · 09/07/2016 19:14

What should Labour do though? Corbyn is in Durham today - the NE is one of the areas Labour are most vulnerable to UKIP. So, if he's persuasive or influential there, that's a good thing? I don't really know what their strategy should be atm. It's unlikely they'll win a general election (isn't it?) so they should aim to cut the UKIP vote. I think it's, maybe, in the country's best interests to have a coalition government atm. Forever, maybe? I just don't know

TheBathroomSink · 09/07/2016 19:14

Expect some photos of her leaving church and heading off for a round of golf sometime soon.

GingerIvy · 09/07/2016 19:19

Round of golf? On a Sunday? Who will cook her family their Sunday roast? Shock

My bet is on a "home visit" with family, cooking roast, wearing apron. Grin That subliminal "I have children" thing, since she doesn't want to be accused of saying it outright.

Floisme · 09/07/2016 19:22

Corbyn may be in the north east but he's still in his comfort zone, at the miners gala.

Meanwhile Cameron has picked himself off the ropes and called for vote on Trident vote. That's what leaders are supposed to do - exploit weaknesses.

TheBathroomSink · 09/07/2016 19:23

Mirror depEditor on Corbyn:
Kevin Maguire ‏@Kevin_Maguire 5h5 hours ago
Corbyn isn't a great speaker. Guaranteed big ovation in Durham because people like him & content of speech, rather than inspiring delivery

If he can't be inspiring in front of a friendly audience, what will happen if he ever appears in front of an unfriendly one? I honestly don't know the answer to that, because most of his appearances seem to be at rallies either for him or for causes he already supported.

TheBathroomSink · 09/07/2016 19:25

Nah, Ginger, the unicorn will do it overnight.

Although probably yes. In a kitchen with an Aga and lots of Emma Bridgewater china and almost certainly a chocolate labrador, although the housekeeper will be hiding in the utility room until the cameras have gone.

GingerIvy · 09/07/2016 19:29

And any children monitored by a nanny.

GingerIvy · 09/07/2016 19:30

Until of course, they're trotted out for show. Hmm

TheBathroomSink · 09/07/2016 19:31

The 'children' in question are 12, 18 and 20, so possibly not a nanny any more.

GingerIvy · 09/07/2016 19:35

Could be for 12. Her blog mentioned a nanny I think in 2014, so for a 10yo.

I don't ever rule out younger children even if a bit older mum as I have primary school age children and I'm 50. Grin

GingerIvy · 09/07/2016 19:36

And yes, I was too lazy to look up how old her children are. Grin

I blame it on distraction of my own children and Teen Titans. lol

SwedishEdith · 09/07/2016 19:40

most of his appearances seem to be at rallies either for him or for causes he already supported

True. I wish there was some reliable data on how he's perceived by Labour voters moving to UKIP