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The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Who is trying to outmanoeuvre who?

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RedToothBrush · 07/07/2016 16:21

Don't worry we've all lost track.

In the Blue Corner
It started out with Cameron and Osborne trying to win the battle of the Tories, but they got stung in a UK wide vote. Some of us thought it was about the 'EU'. Instead it has turned out it was an internal Tory Bitch fight between some old Oxford and Eton mates, whilst for others a protest vote at being disenfranchised.
Gove and Johnson stabbed Cameron & Osborne in the back to run for Team Leave. Then they won when they didn't expect to. And there was no Plan. Uh Oh. Then it all started to go really wrong.
Cameron quit in disgust. Johnson went all President Churchill, before he also got stabbed by Gove (possibly with the assistance of the dark influence of Osborne).
We now have a Tory Smackdown with the shadowy influence of the Media Barons in the background.

#Team Gove has been doing their best with the knives. This is a mission to stab as many Tory MPs in the back as possible in order to become PM. Sponsored and supported by Murdoch

#Team Leadsom has been selling more unicorns and trying to pretend her CV and tax return are completely transparent. Think positive and the economy will be just fine. She is the homeopathy of politics. Sponsored and supported by Arron Banks, Leave.eu, UKIP and Britain First.

#Team May has been threatening to deport everyone if the EU don't play nice. Sponsored and supported by The Daily Mail's Dacre

In The Purple Corner
Tragically, it appears that not only do UKIP have a Plan A, they also have outwitted everyone by having Plan B. Yes that’s right TWO plans.
Farage has swanned off –sacked—for a life on CBB so they are looking for a new leader.
The potential candidates are all equally loathsome. They include Arron Banks himself, a suspended member of the party and several other people with an uncanny ability to put their foot in their mouths.
If this wasn't horrible enough, Team Leadsom is increasingly starting to look like a UKIP take over bid of the Conservative Party, which might be a neat way of avoiding a leadership battle of their own considering the quality of the candidates on offer.

In short, its a bit like a Bad Dystopian Movie that invokes Godwin, set in 2016 Westminster. Except its real.
In the Red Corner
Meanwhile the WMD has finally gone off in the Labour Camp, as Chilcot has been published. However the Chicken Coup rattles on regardless.

Corbyn is STILL clinging on, putting in a good claim for the Westminster 'Charlie off Casualty' Award. He has however had his Big Moment in the Commons. Which was a bit of a let down really. ...

The Unions have been trying to talk some sense into everyone. Meanwhile everyone else is has given up and are now just praying for a ruddy miracle to end this torture and give the country an opposition party.

Angela Eagle is still outside for the 5th day in a row, going "I will stand. Soon. If he doesn't quit" The BBC now qualify for a discount deal at the local Travel Lodge.

We FINALLY know who the fuck Owen Smith is! He's a Welsh MP and sounds like he's not completely away with the political fairies.

George Galloway appears to be trying to make a late bid to be included on the ballot paper for any leadership election.
Bliar's cried. We didn't. Chilcot took over 2 million words to tell us everything we already knew. As well as the fact that Mi6 like Nicholas Cage a lot.

The Cult of Momentum are still worshiping their Dear Leader by sending death threats to PR companies they suspect of disloyalty. Somehow they still manage not to get the title of the most vile pressure group in the UK.

And I suppose I should ask, when will a50 be triggered....? And by whom?

All these questions and more.
Tin foil hats now available upon request

Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

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TheBathroomSink · 09/07/2016 17:49

Asked about the EU imposing tariffs, Ms Leadsom responded: “Why would they do that?”

Seriously.

On the basis of this interview, could have been a senior investment manager for a major firm. If she gets anywhere near EU negotiations, Angela Merkel is going to think it's Christmas, and Juncker might just be caught on camera doing the happy dance.

MrsLupo · 09/07/2016 17:50

Yes, true, Bathroom. Like so much lately, I suspect it's not covered explicitly in any rule book anywhere. I don't see that her constituency could deselect her before a general election anyway. If that were possible, I think a lot of us would be infiltrating opposing parties to get our own useless MPs deselected asap! I know I would!

It's all vanishingly unlikely to happen anyway. I very much doubt if she will even stand. Apparently she is only going on the telly tomorrow to get in ahead of Owen Smith, so it seems there is hardly a united front among the rebels either.

TheBathroomSink · 09/07/2016 17:50

We start with zero tariffs correct me if I'm wrong, but don't we start with zero tariffs due to our membership of the EU ?

TheBathroomSink · 09/07/2016 17:52

The rebels are trying to spin it as AE and OS are fighting over who gets to be the sacrificial lamb, and not that they've been held back for a week and and a half by Tom Watson holding a chair and a bullwhip, while wearing a top hat.

MrsLupo · 09/07/2016 17:53

Ah, but you're forgetting, Bathroom - they need us more than we need them... something about German cars, innit.

GingerIvy · 09/07/2016 17:53

Juncker might just be caught on camera doing the happy dance.

Hmmmmm tempting but no.

TheBathroomSink · 09/07/2016 17:54

Found it. Leader of the Opposition must be an MP
Section 10(1) includes a definition (which codifies the usual situation under the previous custom) -" "Leader of the Opposition" means that member of the House of Commons who is for the time being the leader in that House of the party in opposition to His Majesty's Government having the greatest numerical strength in that House".
Ministers of the Crown Act 1937

MrsLupo · 09/07/2016 17:55

Ugh, hot on the heels of the silent disco picture I did not need a mental image of Tom Watson with a bullwhip, thank you. Envy (that's vom not envy)

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TheBathroomSink · 09/07/2016 17:57

they need us more than we need them... something about German cars, innit.

Oh yeah. Forgot that. Duh.

TheBathroomSink · 09/07/2016 17:58

Sorry MrsLupo, but once it was in my head, it just had to be shared!

MrsLupo · 09/07/2016 17:59

Oh, very good, Bathroom. So, in the unlikely event that she stands, and wins, then if she gets deselected by her constituency at the next general election, the Labour party would campaign leaderless for that election. She just gets better and better as a proposition, doesn't she?

GingerIvy · 09/07/2016 18:00

If she wins, gets deselected, then I guess it would be Yvette v Owen?

MrsLupo · 09/07/2016 18:03

Gotta get busy in the kitchen, but I leave you with a super quote from Corbyn:

"There is no pressure on me. The real pressure is when you don’t have enough to feed your kids or have a roof over your head."

And people wonder why the guy is popular.

TheBathroomSink · 09/07/2016 18:03

That'd be fairly simple and logical, Ginger, so undoubtedly not.

GingerIvy · 09/07/2016 18:04

Bathroom I suppose so. Grin Why go for simple and straight forward, when convoluted and disruptive is available?

flippinada · 09/07/2016 18:07

Ah ok. So she hasn't confirmed then. Just
re-affirmed her intention of standing (again)?

GingerIvy · 09/07/2016 18:10

I don't think the news media even need to write a new story on AE. Just bring up the last time she said she was going to stand, change the date, and rerun it. Hmm

GingerIvy · 09/07/2016 18:10

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GingerIvy · 09/07/2016 18:18

Looking on FB comments, AE is getting shredded at the moment. Talk about her abysmal voting record is fast and furious. She doesn't appear to be well liked.

merrymouse · 09/07/2016 18:24

There is no pressure on me. The real pressure is when you don’t have enough to feed your kids or have a roof over your head

But surely increasing childhood poverty means that there is pressure on him to make sure that there is a strong opposition and to lead Labour to victory at some point in the next 6 months to 4 years?

He is the leader. He can't blame the PLP forever.

Floisme · 09/07/2016 18:24

I hardly think Corbyn was alone in not being entirely ready for what unfolded
He should have been ready MrsLupo . That's his job and I don't think there's any o excuse for it - until the final day of voting, the polls had been predicting a leave result. He had an open goal and he didn't even take a shot. I felt totally let down by him that weekend and while I agree his cabinet were probably waiting for the chance to shaft him, I've no sympathy.

GingerIvy · 09/07/2016 18:25

As if we didn't have enough issues with AL, then there's this....

www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/07/9-reasons-you-should-be-truly-terrified-andrea-leadsom-becoming-prime-minister

BigChocFrenzy · 09/07/2016 18:39

Loathsome is denying that some businesses will leave if the UK loses access to the single market, denying that City of London firms will move out if Financial Passporting is lost ....

BUT

back when bankers' bonuses were limited, she warned this would destroy the City of London as a financial centre, because international firms could move out so easily.

Consistency is clearly not one of her virtues - if indeed she has any Hmm

The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Who is trying to outmanoeuvre who?