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Tony Fucking Blair

164 replies

MangoMoon · 03/07/2016 14:14

Interviewed on Sky News - apparently the people have spoken..... But we don't necessarily have to listen.

I hate that man.

With a passion.

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ExtraHotLatteToGo · 04/07/2016 08:25

He's a lying scrumbag.

God only knows what the media are playing at. Who gives a flying fuck what he thinks?

Look at his weasly body language.

Urgh.

smallfox1980 · 04/07/2016 08:28

Chris. The Conservatives were very proud war, this wasn't a convention thing many of them.openly supported it. As did the majority of the press and the British population. I know, I was there fighting against it. Not just on the London March, which I helped organise, but in leafleting, mini demos etc.

It is revisionism, everyone seems to recall being anti war but it certainly wasn't the case.

Also.if you can't see the good things Blair did do then again, revisionist.

I don't like the man, and I think that Chilcott will probably make him disappear from public life.

MangoMoon · 04/07/2016 08:43

You may well have been marching & fighting against it, but it was friends of mine who were sent out by him to fight with inadequate personal & operational kit.
Something which he weaselled and snaked over for a very long time.

I reserve the right to fucking hate him.

It was also him that brought about the whole benefits trap that we are still living the aftermath of.

Please do feel free, however, to post a list of his 'achievements' so we can be reminded how he 'wasn't all bad'.

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smallfox1980 · 04/07/2016 09:12

Not a comprehensive list but this is what I can think of:

Signed the UK up to the EU Human Rights Convention.

Invested in new schools and hospitals to replace crumbling ones left from 18 years of Tory under investment.

Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.

Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.

More police in England and Wales.

Doubling funding in for every pupil.

Significantly More Nurses and Doctors
.
Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.

Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.

Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.

Restored city-wide government to London.

Child benefit up 26 per cent after 1997.

Sure Start Children’s Centres.

Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.

Good Friday Agreement

Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.

A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.

600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.

Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.

scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.

Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.

Banned fox hunting.

Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.

Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.

Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.

Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.

New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.

Free entry to national museums and galleries.

Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.

MangoMoon · 04/07/2016 09:21

Good list - I'll concede!

He's still a twat though Wink

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smallfox1980 · 04/07/2016 09:24

Oh agreed. But I feel that the "Tony Blair was all bad" folk that have appeared in abundance are VERY revisionist in their views.

Like I said everyone remembers being against the Iraq war, when it wasn't the case at all at the time.

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 04/07/2016 09:28

Labour with him leading the party were good for many people but of course and rightly so Iraq shouldn't be overlooked but neither should the progression from the first two terms

I agree with what he says

But it maybe time to retire from public life

MangoMoon · 04/07/2016 09:30

Thank you for taking the time to do the list though - genuinely. Smile

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Grassgreendashhabi · 04/07/2016 09:41

I'm not against tories as a whole however I am against him

Surferjet · 04/07/2016 09:48

Haha Mango, I just knew this was your thread before I even opened it Grin

oldbirdy · 04/07/2016 09:56

They didn't know very well there were no WMD. Hussein had already used sarin nerve gas against his own people in 1988, that is a WMD. Hussein was refusing to cooperate with UN weapons inspectors. They should have waited for the UN inspectors and a UN mandate, no doubt. But just don't believe that Blair knew full well there were no WMD. If he had, why would he have based his whole premise for war on that one thing he knew would be proven a lie? It doesn't make psychological sense.

AndNowItsSeven · 04/07/2016 09:56

I love Tony Bkair, excellent prime minister. He didn't bring the welfare trap unless you mean he actually supported poor and vulnerable people?

MangoMoon · 04/07/2016 09:56

Haha!
I fucking hate him!

SmallFox very nearly made me have a teeny, tiny glimmer of 'he's not all bad', but I managed to rally & keep my resolve Grin

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AndNowItsSeven · 04/07/2016 09:58

Blair.
Iraq said themselves they had wmd it was their own fault for lying.

Surferjet · 04/07/2016 10:13

Yes, smallfox's list is a reminder that he was a decent PM ( I voted for him twice ) but the longer he went on the more I started to dislike him, & now he's resurfaced to back up his friends the remainers, I hate him even more.
Once upon a time left wingers ( not that he's one of course ) were on the side of the working class & anti-establishment - now they're marching in support of the elite & want the working class vote overturned by politicians & courts.
Traitors.

irregularegular · 04/07/2016 10:15

Lord Butler who chaired the 2004 Review of Intelligence on Weapons of Mass Destruction said on the Today programme this morning that Blair did not lie. See the BBC news website.

I think Tony Blair has been incredibly unfairly misrepresented by history. Yes he got it wrong on Iraq, but so did most people at the time. He achieved an enormous amount as PM. The likes of Corbyn will never do anything close.

The list didn't mention that he is seen as a saviour in Kosovo.

irregularegular · 04/07/2016 10:15

I admit he's gone a bit weird since though.

Itinerary · 04/07/2016 10:28

Once upon a time left wingers ( not that he's one of course ) were on the side of the working class & anti-establishment - now they're marching in support of the elite & want the working class vote overturned by politicians & courts.

Yes, I agree. Things have changed dramatically and disappointingly.

ApocalypseSlough · 04/07/2016 10:39

I didn't see him a but heard on the radio. I agree with him and thank you for the list smallfox
Grin

ApocalypseSlough · 04/07/2016 10:40

irregular yy Kosovo.

smallfox1980 · 04/07/2016 10:49

"want the working class vote overturned by politicians & courts"

What the working class vote that was "against the elite" or the one that voted on and in out vote on the EU? The one that was told that immigration was the cause of all their woes?

The working class who will be far worse off outside of the EU?

crossroads3 · 04/07/2016 11:10

Sorry, but I agree with him.

Me too.

MangoMoon · 04/07/2016 11:11

This is like "what did Tony Blair ever do for us...?"

I am scared that I will be turned...
Shock

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Chris1234567890 · 04/07/2016 11:11

Mango... just to cheer you up..

listverse.com/2016/04/20/10-good-things-done-by-evil-dictators/

RosesareSublime · 04/07/2016 11:15

Small I cannot be bothered to pick through your list and counter all your claims.

For a start child poverty gap GREW under his long tenure, have you forgotten all the head lines about it?
labour fails on child poverty?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labours-record-on-poverty-in-tatters-1681047.html

The full scale of Labour's failure to help the poorest in Britain was laid bare yesterday with revelations that hundreds of thousands of people were being plunged into deprivation even before the recession hit, and that the Government had been unable to make any impression on the numbers of children and pensioners in poverty.

^^ Hundreds of thousands plunged into poverty BEFORE the rescission hit. Angry

The admission came as official figures blew apart the Government's credibility on helping those struggling the most. They painted a bleak picture of worsening poverty in Britain even before the recession took root. The number of people living in poverty had climbed to 11 million by March 2008, a rise of 300,000 since 2006.

"Two million older people were in poverty before the recession even started," she said. "Now, after facing last year's rocketing inflation, pensioners on low incomes are still struggling with high food and fuel prices, while watching their income from savings evaporate."

"Many more children will be growing up in poverty, and at greater risk of underperforming in school or missing out on employment opportunities in later life. Turning this around requires greater financial support.

^ I expect its these failed children who were left on the scrap heap, failed by labour, classified as lazy^ by Labour and now voted to leave the EU.

I am with you Mango I hate the Man.

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