Exactly one week on - happy 'leavers' how are we all feeling?

[Surferjet]

Wow what a week
I'm still walking on air & soooooo happy we're leaving, just want A50 triggered ASAP!

[MeMySonAndl]

The world doesn't see us as idiots? Do you read the newspapers abroad? I have been checking some over the last few days and most people looking at us with respect seem to be those in the extreme right .

The Americans are offering to donate Trump to us now that Boris is out. We are looking like bigots, even when the UK is one of the most tolerant places on Earth (so far).

[foursillybeans]

Theelementssong I'm not sure if your naivety is genuine. If it is I truly pity you. That is not how it will go down in practice. See FranHastings post for a more actual version.
The world in which you live seems great. I'd quite like to live there too. But sadly it doesn't exist and won't ever exist.

[sorenofthejnaii]

We will have 'controlled' immigration which will ease the burden on our housing, schools, hospitals, & jobs - immigration was the key issue in this referendum, so on that issue alone things will improve

Will we? Have you told the EU that?

Maybe we'll have less non EU migration to bring numbers down?

And we might well have a lot less money in the public purse to spend on the NHS and education. Who knows.

[MangoMoon]

BearBehind, I have no need to defer to other voters on other threads.

I have given my reasons for why I want to leave the EU & my hopes for the future countless times.

I'm frankly sick of regurgitating it now - it's out there on many, many threads.

[JudyCoolibar]

We can all have hopes for the future. But surely we have to temper those with a bit of reality?

[MyCatIsTryingToKillMe]

What I'm interested to know is who do the Leavers think is going to sort this out? When they're yelling in the street to make Britain great again who exactly do they think is going to do that (and I don't mean the politicians who frankly are a massive waste of space)? Them? No, they are expecting the people who are educated, who run businesses, understand finance etc i.e. the people who most likely voted remain to sort all this shit out for them. The people who have voted out now want someone else to make it all right again but they will do absolutely fuck all to make 'Britain great again' themselves - other than crow about how happy they are even though they don't really know why.

[MeMySonAndl]

Mango, you will find out that many 18-24 years old were bothered about voting but not allowed to register unless they had a National Insurance number, which many of them didn't have as they are studying.

[MeMySonAndl]

I think you are right, the job of making Britain "great again" is being left on the hands of those who voted remain.

[MangoMoon]

The thing that, for me, has been the standout thing to come out of the referendum result is the appalling attitude towards the working classes & low income areas.

If you are the 'right sort' of low income, working class - who beams up subserviently at the middle class 'left leaning' benefactors and does as they're told like a good pet - because the 'clever people know what's best for us', then you're ok.

If you dare to push back and state your case or call into question the status quo, or worse still -** dare to have an opinion that isn't the one you've been told to have, then you are the scum of the earth - and you should expect to be torn to shreds by a pack of rabid dogs.

[RosesareSublime]

So all you Brexiteers celebrating just have a look around and ask yourself if it was really worth it

i do not know of any huge project or undertaking anyone individually or collectively would undertake and then judge it on one week in.

One week.

I am not sure what people expected.

[MangoMoon]

which many of them didn't have as they are studying.

Has getting an NI number changed now then?

I git mine at 16 and didn't leave education until I was 19.

[RosesareSublime]

I agree Mango, its bared in all its hideousness.

There is a vicious contingent on here who have repeatedly called for the democratic right to vote to be taken away from people they deem as not worthy of it.

[MangoMoon]

MeMySonAndI, taken from the gov.uk website just now:

You should be sent a National Insurance number automatically just before your 16th birthday if you live in the UK

So why didn't the majority of 18-24 yr olds vote?
It was nothing to do with NI numbers.

[PattyPenguin]

*MeMySonAndI" everyone gets a national insurance number automatically just before their 16th birthday. If you haven't received it, you can apply for one.
www.gov.uk/apply-national-insurance-number

It's nothing to do with being in employment or in education.

[MangoMoon]

X-post Patty!

[Surferjet]

The thing that, for me, has been the standout thing to come out of the referendum result is the appalling attitude towards the working classes & low income areas

Yes, I agree. The EU vote has almost become a side issue. The disgust at the lower classes isn't very nice to witness.
But it was always there, the pseudo concern for the less well off has been exposed. They couldn't give a toss about the poor.

[JudyCoolibar]

Mango, what is coming over more and more is that you have a massive chip on your shoulder and are determined to think that everyone who disagrees with you is just being beastly to you because they think they're better than you. You cannot contemplate that they disagree with you because they are genuinely and for very good reasons very worried indeed about the consequences of leaving the EU. You apparently think that Brexit was the answer to everything you think is going wrong. That might be OK if anyone in the Leave camp had come up with some sort of a plan to make that happen, but they haven't, and even you admit that that is the case.

[RosesareSublime]

I also dont get this insistence that leave voters regret it. I dont and no one else I know does either. Or that we have been duped

Left to the remainers to sort it out?

Like who. You do realise its an pretty even split, many business voted leave, many of them are coming onto the news to say everything is fine.

[kirinm]

I think any happy leaver must be a pretty selfish human being lacking empathy with lots of money to burn. And presumably still failing to read articles that actually deal with the financial fall out.

[RosesareSublime]

I dont think Mango has any chip on her shoulder, her take on the vitriol however is spot on.

[MangoMoon]

In fact, on this very thread!

What I'm interested to know is who do the Leavers think is going to sort this out? When they're yelling in the street to make Britain great again who exactly do they think is going to do that (and I don't mean the politicians who frankly are a massive waste of space)? Them? No, they are expecting the people who are educated, who run businesses, understand finance etc i.e. the people who most likely voted remain to sort all this shit out for them. The people who have voted out now want someone else to make it all right again but they will do absolutely fuck all to make 'Britain great again' themselves - other than crow about how happy they are even though they don't really know why.

So, Leave voters are stupid, small minded and uneducated.

Remain voters are the educated benefactors.

I rest my fucking case.
It is disgusting.

[JudyCoolibar]

i do not know of any huge project or undertaking anyone individually or collectively would undertake and then judge it on one week in.

No, what we judge is the fact that in the real world no-one going into a huge project or undertaking does so without a plan. But what came out not within a week, but within days, is that the leaders of the Leave camp have no plan. Indeed, some of them admitted that they just vaguely hoped that the government would have one - yes, that's the government of which their leaders formed part.

[RosesareSublime]

The same could be said of Remainers though Kirinm couldn't it.
Selfish people happy with the status quo while others were/are suffering. Happy in a bubble away from all the pressing issues causing society to fracture.

[JudyCoolibar]

I also dont get this insistence that leave voters regret it. I dont and no one else I know does either. Or that we have been duped

Have a look at the comments columns of the Mail, Sun and Express: full of people moaning like hell because they didn't realise that the £350m for the NHS was a myth, that free movement for EU citizens would have to continue, that they are their friends and relatives are losing their jobs and that the cost of their holidays was going up.

[RosesareSublime]

Its an unusual situation Judy, I think most people - appreciate that, in that the leave movement is not a political party but was/ is cross party.
If there was such concern about this, I think remainers should have protested about this way back when the referendum was announced.

I understand this, I understand there will need to be re shuffling, and some limbo, before we get going. If remainers didn't realise this, they should have been protesting on this specific issue months ago.