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Exactly one week on - happy 'leavers' how are we all feeling?

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Surferjet · 01/07/2016 07:38

Wow what a week Grin
I'm still walking on air & soooooo happy we're leaving, just want A50 triggered ASAP!

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noblegiraffe · 02/07/2016 14:30

Over 17 million people voted to come out of the EU – that’s got nothing to do with racism

Says a UKIP councillor from Peterborough.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/02/brexit-supporters-one-week-on-it-is-ridiculous-there-was-no-plan?

smallfox1980 · 02/07/2016 14:34

I'd love to believe you mango, but when all these voters in areas with low levels of immigration state that immigration was the reason for their vote I'm inclined not to.

My mother lives in County Durham, people in her town overwhelmingly voted out because of immigration, I know because I've lived and worked there too and they complained about it then, its a refrain I hear over and over when I go back to visit.

MangoMoon · 02/07/2016 14:37

NobleGiraffe, here is John Okonkowski's comment in full:

17 million people voted to come out of the EU – that’s got nothing to do with racism. Everybody jumps to the conclusion that if it’s racism, Ukip were involved. I don’t know anything about these attacks. What do you expect me to do about it? My parents are Polish and I have a Polish name. The campaign was nasty.

He is a Polish UKIP councillor - I am unsure if English is his first language or not, but perhaps the nuance of what he was trying to say was lost due to that?

Just a thought.

noblegiraffe · 02/07/2016 15:04

Ok, so the challenge was to find someone who said that the leave vote had nothing to do with racism, and when I find someone who said exactly that, apparently that's not what he really meant. Hmm

He says he has polish parents, not that he is polish.

MangoMoon · 02/07/2016 15:08

I'm not disputing what he said!
Not at all.

I just added context to the original stark:
'UKIP councillor says nothing to do with racism'.

BlunderWomansCat · 02/07/2016 15:08

My mother is a racist and voted leave.

BertrandRussell · 02/07/2016 15:08

"
Remain lost this referendum because they forgot that a lot of there warnings about what would happen on leaving the EU didn't actually apply to millions of the uk population" What- they don't ever buy anything? Or go to work?

noblegiraffe · 02/07/2016 15:11

I read some polling data that says that only 17% of voters believed that leaving would leave households £4300 per year worse off, but 45% believed the claim that Turkey would be fast-tracked to EU membership and their population given the right to come here.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36648769

BlunderWomansCat · 02/07/2016 15:14

And she votes UKIP and reads the Sun Blush

smallfox1980 · 02/07/2016 15:18

That is depressing noble and a clear sign of how having the right wing press onside helped the leave campaign.

TheElementsSong · 02/07/2016 15:21

I can offer one data point which is my FiL. He voted Leave because of x-million Turks coming to this country. This is actually what he said.

mollie123 · 02/07/2016 15:40

Not the 'truth is in the polls' again Shock
Do people really believe you can ask a small sample of the entire adult population no matter how well researched and extrapolate that to the rest of the population.

Even worse - use the story of your own in laws to prove that an entire generation are selfish, bigoted and racist.

mollie123 · 02/07/2016 15:42

In truth the referendum was an entirely accurate ultimate poll but the results do not break down into the nice neat boxes everone seems to want to put them in to prove their points. The media and social media have been trying hard to do exactly that.

BertrandRussell · 02/07/2016 15:45

"to prove that an entire generation are selfish, bigoted and racist."

Oh ffs-nobody said that!!!

QueenOfNowt · 02/07/2016 15:49

Could Bearfoxbear (or any other Remainiac hysteric) elaborate precisely as to how the country is 'going to shit'? Thanks.

smallfox1980 · 02/07/2016 15:53

Tripple A rating gone. National debt now more expensive.

Investment stalling.

Some jobs already lost.

Pound fell to a record low and is still 10 cents lower than where it has been on average this year. This will lead to inflation and higher costs for business in the UK.

Banks discussing moving.

Interest rates to be cut to try to stimulate consumer spending.

Recession predicted by every single economic body.

Both political parties in turmoil

EU stating no cherry picking for deals as promised.

Leave camp exposed as liars.

Want me to go on?

GlassBrexiteer · 02/07/2016 16:02

the USA wants to make deals with us
heatst.com/uk/us-uk-trade-bill-in-congress-just-one-week-after-brexit-vote/

the dust is all still up in the air, I think it will settle and we'll pick ourselves up and carry on
people will lose jobs, people will get new jobs, they might even be better ones
the political leaders will sort themselves

this is a blip, a bump in the road, in a couple of years we will wonder what all the fuss was about

those are my predictions

BertrandRussell · 02/07/2016 16:07

"this is a blip, a bump in the road, in a couple of years we will wonder what all the fuss was about"

In a couple of years I want to be saying "Wow, things are bloody fantastic! I am so glad I was wrong about Brexit!"

GlassBrexiteer · 02/07/2016 16:12

splendid Bertand splendid :o

smallfox1980 · 02/07/2016 16:16

Based on what knowledge? In the text you linked to:

"While the bill has no power to compel the President to do anything, it would be a strong sign that the US prioritizes closer economic relations with the UK."

Of course it doesn't have any actual importance, it only says that it is going to cement the current trading relationship not make any changes.

Oh and I'm certainly not taking anything seriously from a website set up by Lousie Mensch.

Also only 15% of our exports go to the US. Now if our relationship with financial services is changed with the EU, that will drop significantly.

HereSheComestoSavetheDay · 02/07/2016 16:20

Hahaha - a blip!

Any prediction on when the 'blip' will stop?

GlassBrexiteer · 02/07/2016 16:21

Smallfox you're such a doom merchant arent you

Unescorted · 02/07/2016 16:23

Silly me I thought that the US was compelling all nations it trades with to sign up to Free Trade Agreements - these basically say US companies can trade freely in your country if you trade on any basis in the US. The US can have taxes and tarifs on anything you sell into the US but you cannot do the same. That is not a deal I would like to sign up to. Tellingly the conuntries that have signed up to the deals are ones who have weak economies and really didn't have much choice.

smallfox1980 · 02/07/2016 16:24

I see no reason for optimism at the minute, I see no examples of any critical thinking or sound economic analysis in your "be optimistic" pronouncements.

Bland, meaningless soundbites built on thin air. Much like the rest of the leave campagin.

GlassBrexiteer · 02/07/2016 16:26

well life is ultimately meaningless and futile
we will all die soon,
I guess, yeah no reason for optimism is there

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