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Exactly one week on - happy 'leavers' how are we all feeling?

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Surferjet · 01/07/2016 07:38

Wow what a week Grin
I'm still walking on air & soooooo happy we're leaving, just want A50 triggered ASAP!

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MangoMoon · 02/07/2016 11:15

...and the Brexiters now turn on the Remainsrs and begin victim blaming. That didn't take long did it?

Victim blaming?!
Really?!

And as for 'that didn't take long, did it?' - well it is over 700 posts in, so not exactly quick.

Did you miss the disgusting things thrown at me all over the thread? Or does that not count?

HereSheComestoSavetheDay · 02/07/2016 11:15

'Here - you don't want comprehensive answers , you want ..... Oh feel sorry for me,

Well shit does happen ...

Get another job!

Or moan about it some more.'

I don't think I need to say anything in retort to this. You are making yourself look bad enough without any further comment from me.

Well done.

Helmetbymidnight · 02/07/2016 11:16

'Who do you think the elites are' is a good question- however I don't believe it is at the heart of the ref- it is something some (not all) brexitters have started defensively trying to argue over the last few days.
It clearly makes no sense at all.

smallfox1980 · 02/07/2016 11:21

The elites narrative mentioned earlier is funny.

Essentially the leave voters have voted for an elite that has been held in check by the EU through its competition laws and regulations of workers rights.

But they have been convinced that the EU was the cause of all their woes and being freed from it will make things better. Which it will, for the right wing neo liberal elite ( i detect some of their attitudes on here with the "get a different job" point).

Essentially the leave voters are Turkeys voting for Christmas, I've seen no really well analysed points for positivity on here, just the same kind of banal statements they made prior to the vote. Just they can't shout PROJECT FEAR now, because its been proven to be true.

Dumb as rocks.

BearFoxBear · 02/07/2016 11:23

This thread does nothing to convince me that leavers are anything other than deluded, selfish people holding their hands other their ears while the country goes to shit. You fell for mendacious, self - serving bullshit, at least have the good grace to admit it.

BertrandRussell · 02/07/2016 11:24

"Did you miss the disgusting things thrown at me all over the thread? Or does that not count?"

Yes. I miss them. Tell us about them.

MangoMoon · 02/07/2016 11:26

I've said it before - you cannot & will get the 'answers' that you so desperately want.

The future is unwritten:
we can hope that the professionals who work in those important jobs in finance, govt etc do their job the best they can and that we weather this initial storm & come through it virtually unscathed, ready for a bright future.

No-one, however, can predict the future - it is intangible.

The reasons people voted:
The reasons behind the leave vote were so disparate & varied.
You simply cannot package it into a neat parcel - different socioeconomic groups voted for wildly different reasons, there are common themes but nothing that can be neatly pinned as a 'one size fits all' answer.

Constant demands for Why! What Now! can never be truly answered or addressed apart from personal, individual 'why' and personal, individual hopes.

GoudyStout · 02/07/2016 11:27

"Well shit does happen ..."

"Get another job!"

Nice.

MangoMoon · 02/07/2016 11:28

Turkeys voting for Christmas, I've seen no really well analysed points for positivity on here, just the same kind of banal statements

Turkeys voting for Christmas has to be one of the most overused, overwhelmingly smug & patronising phrases bandied about in MN at the moment.

It is sneering in the extreme.

GlassBrexiteer · 02/07/2016 11:29

My plan was to keep on getting on with my life exactly the way it was

I make plans for my life too, frequently things happen that mean I don't get what I want
that's just life isn't it.

If you expect things to always work out in your favour you are bound to be frequently disappointed

When things dont go my way i re assess, make a new plan
Also always try to have a backup plan or two
HTH

MangoMoon · 02/07/2016 11:29

RTFT Bettrand Hmm

noblegiraffe · 02/07/2016 11:31

rickety videos like this Farage one told them that voting leave would get power back from the elite (the EU) failing to point out it would hand it to the elite (the Tories). It also failed to point out that 'Independence Day' was most commonly used to describe finally being free of British rule, where this video celebrates British rule.

smallfox1980 · 02/07/2016 11:32

Oh Mango Moon, the future can be predicted and forecast though.

How is it working out for you that all the predictions made prior to the vote have come true since.

Oh and before you start with "the FTSE" argument I'm going to point this out:

Winners since brexit:

Fresnillo +42%

Randgold Resources +36%

AstraZeneca +15.5%

Shire +15.4%

BP +15%

Diageo +14.9%

Mediclinic +14.9%

British American Tobacco +14.5%

Unilever +13.7%

National Grid +12.66%

Losers since Brexit:

oyal Bank of Scotland -32%

EasyJet -28.7%

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Barratt Developments -28%

International Airlines Group (BA owner) -27.8%

Taylor Wimpey -27.5%

Persimmon -26.5%

Barclays -25.1%

Lloyds Banking Group -24.6%

Travis Perkins -24%

Dixons Carphone -24%

Now you'll notice that the losses on average tend to outwiegh the gains, and that many of the gains are firms that benefit because they get lots of their income from abroad.

Banks and housebuilders are down significantly, what do you think this indicates for the future.

Shall I tell what will happen, you know I've yet to be proved wrong.

The "people" btw didn't vote out overwhelmingly, and I'll say this again. In the "undemocratic" Eu that you complained about so vehemently a 4% majority wouldn't carry a vote. Democracy is important to you? Only when you want it to be. Hypocrites.

GlassBrexiteer · 02/07/2016 11:32

Remaindoomers are turkeys who want to stay in a crumbling dysfunctional turkey shed

Brexiteers have voted to get out of the turkey shed before all hell breaks loose in there

smallfox1980 · 02/07/2016 11:33

You don't want me to sneer at you Mango Moon? Well come up with a better argument for fucking up the country then.

HereSheComestoSavetheDay · 02/07/2016 11:35

'When things dont go my way i re assess, make a new plan
Also always try to have a backup plan or two
HTH'

Oh, it's up to me to sort out your crap, is it?

All I am hearing is leavers trying to abdicate themselves of any responsibility for this disaster. It's hard to have any respect for you when your only response is to try to pass the buck on people who didn't do anything to create the situation.

Grassgreendashhabi · 02/07/2016 11:35

Redundancy happened in the past present and future,

To belligerently use this argument on the EU is totally rubbish.

Of course redundancies will happen, just as they did in the past.

GlassBrexiteer · 02/07/2016 11:36

Oh Mango Moon, the future can be predicted and forecast though

Total Nonsense

predictions about the future are almost always wrong, we can make them based on current trends but we can't know that current trends will continue

You clearly have a poor grasp of probability

smallfox1980 · 02/07/2016 11:36

But THIS TIME the redundancies will be because we left the EU, you can't get away from that.

MangoMoon · 02/07/2016 11:37

You don't want me to sneer at you Mango Moon? Well come up with a better argument for fucking up the country then.

Whatevs.

Sneer away - you're clearly very practised at it already.

Helmetbymidnight · 02/07/2016 11:37

We can hope the professionals sort it out
Heard this sooo many times
the leaders will fix it
the people who run the country will find a way

Such hate for the experts and yet faith in the experts.

You can't package the reasons why people voted leave. That's true, you can't because in the majority of cases it was ill considered crap.

Grassgreendashhabi · 02/07/2016 11:38

Small - we were heading for a recession even if staying in the eu

smallfox1980 · 02/07/2016 11:40

Strange mango moon that ALL of the things I predicted, along with the majroity of economists have come true so far.

Shall we make a list:

Triple A rating gone. Yup.

FTSE crash. Yup

Pound at a historic low. Yup

Promises from the leave camp baccktracked on cause they were untrue. Yup.

Investment stalling. Yup

Banks moving offices. Yup.

Recession predicted. Yup

EU not going to give us access to the free market without concessions. Yup.

You can say all you like about my grasp of probability, but I tend to be right most of the time. I'd say you have no grasp on reality.

justbogoff · 02/07/2016 11:44

Those talking about things happening in "the last recession" are missing the point a bit.

We weren't in a recession, we were growing. We've voted for a recession, that's what the "turkeys voting for Christmas" comments are about,

HereSheComestoSavetheDay · 02/07/2016 11:45

But all of those things were going to happen anyway, smallfox! Apparently. :S

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