Exactly one week on - happy 'leavers' how are we all feeling?

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Wow what a week
I'm still walking on air & soooooo happy we're leaving, just want A50 triggered ASAP!

I don't really think the details of my personal life are relevant. Nor do I think it is appropriate for you to demand them.

Here you said
I'd really love to hear how I am going to go from redundancy to cheery home owner. I really want to know! Please fucking tell me how I am going to get richer from being made poorer now. You must have some great idea for how this is going to work?

I gave my personal view as to why I voted out then you specifically said
that does not, in any way whatsoever, answer my question.

So I asked what is your job, rent etc so I could give you a direct answer

And now you say I don't really think the details of my personal life are relevant. Nor do I think it is appropriate for you to demand them.

How the fuck can I answer your question??? Tell me how I can answer it if I don't know your circumstances...

I think the questions may have rhetorical, do you know what rhetorical means?

I gave her a rhetorical answer. She said it never answered her question primping a more specific answer.

And there are no needs for insults I have not been insulting to anyone .

Or is this going to go into another leavers are uneducated, racists etc etc

Is that really all you hope for? Another day of existence?

As someone for whom that was my only hope at times, then I can confidently tell you that (for me) anything that comes as a result of Brexit will never plumb those depths, however much Remainers ramp up the apocalyptic hyperbole.

I am sure also that I am not the only one.

Surely you have made a decision that is going to make ALL the people being made redundant, ALL the people being made poorer, ALL the people in the UK richer and happier?

What precisely I did and how much worse off I am now going to be doesn't matter, does it? Because you have a grand plan to rescue us all from this mire, don't you?

I don't think anyone except the leavers even mentioned the apocalypse, did they? In my recollection of the thread.

Out of the frying pan into the fire
From one clusterfuck to another

However, the EU is untenable and we are better off out of it

I'd really love to hear how I am going to go from redundancy to cheery home owner. I really want to know! Please fucking tell me how I am going to get richer from being made poorer now. You must have some great idea for how this is going to work?

Why do you think other people should do this for you?

What positive plans & strategies do you have in place for your own personal circumstances?

I've gone through unexpected job loss, being poor etc - I didn't demand answers from other people.
And I am not the first, won't be the last.

How about

ALL the people being made redundant, ALL the people being made poorer, ALL the people in the UK richer and happier?

That happened whilst in the EU in last recession..

True Mango
Shit happens
We have to deal with it

Are you fucking kidding? I get made redundant because of some stupid decision made by OTHER PEOPLE and I am being outrageous to ask those people what exactly they projected as an alternative for me?

My plan was to keep on getting on with my life exactly the way it was. Now I've had a huge stumbling block in the way, you tell me why it is actually Christmas. YOU chose this. YOU must know. I don't know how to get out of this. It seems like a ridiculous idea to me. But YOU know otherwise, don't you?

I don't remember all the people in the UK being made redundant, and also the last recession was nothing to do with the EU, rather the unregulated banking markets outside of the EU.

Shit happens? This didn't just happen. You MADE it happen. Don't just say oops butter fingers and tell me to sort it out.

Appropriate for you to describe it as shit though. That's exactly what it is.

I get made redundant because of some stupid decision made by OTHER PEOPLE

This is usually always the reason behind redundancies tbh.

People lose jobs all the time because of factors outside their control

Why are you not screeching at the people who voted Cameron in at the last election?
Isn't it thier fault that the referendum happened at all, isn't it thier fault you were made redundant Hereshecomes?

Why don't you rage at someone iin the company you work for, there must be someone who made the descion that lost you your job?
Or perhaps its your fault for not taking a job that was more secure?

Get another job!

...and the Brexiters now turn on the Remainsrs and begin victim blaming. That didn't take long did it?

Yeah...fancy being silly enough to take a non secure job.

Wake up Brexiters.....with a Tory Govt and no safety net of the EU stopping them the work is now about to become even more insecure and for longer hours.

But that's the fault of the Remain voters....apparently.

Fuck right off.

No you cant blame me, I didn't vote for Cameron in the last election

Did you vote for him?
If you did it's YOUR fault that all this shit has happened

'This is usually always the reason behind redundancies tbh.'

That's your comprehensive answer to my question?

You are all just shrugging your shoulders, aren't you? You are all totally accountable for this, but you don't want to be. You don't want to have to answer any questions about it, as some of you have stated. It's like asking an arsonist why they want to start fires, isn't it? You like destroying things. Not fixing them.

I think herecomes is valid in his rage.

Why don't you leavers start admitting that there is no plan, that the economic predictions were correct and that your spurious reasons for voting leave were exactly that, spurious. Also really, that you have messed up the future for your children.

Well done, really well done.

Hahaha - 'get a job that is more secure.'

Now who sounds snobby?

Some bad things happened while we were in the EU, ergo we should leave the EU / things are bad for me now, leaving can't make them worse / if things get worse, it's definitely not because of leaving the EU / everything is going great so long as the sun keeps rising and we're not eating our own children (or whatever).

Years ago while I was a student, I "inherited" a very old Mac computer (long before they were cool) on which to write my dissertation. Very occasionally it would freeze or slow down due to not being able to cope with the newer software I was using, and I would irately hammer on the keyboard. To this day I don't know if it was a system feature of the time, or my predecessor had set this up, but it would squawk in a sad little electronic voice: "It's not my fault!"

It has surprised me that so many leavers say they voted that way due to the feeling of disenfranchisement, as a protest against the elite. I always saw the eu as checking corruption and the abuse of power of the elite.

When I first heard the idea that it was a protest vote I thought 'no way, people voted that way to reduce immigration and get a bigger budget for the NHS. They're just backtracking now they know this was bollocks.' It's just I didn't hear anyone talking about voting leave to protest against the establishment. At all. Not one person said this to me before the vote, even if they were undecided or wanted to vote leave.

Especially when the people who they would be handing power to would be....the elite.

Now I'm wondering how lots of people got the message that voting to leave would give them back power from the elite. I'm sure they must have done, I'm just not sure how.

That leads me on to another genuine question. Who are the 'elite'? I always saw them as the superich. The ones who orchestrated the recession and austerity so they can carry on getting even richer whilst everyone else stagnates. But this thread has highlighted that some think the 'elite' are educated liberals.

So my question is: who do you think are the elite? I'm honestly intrigued as I now think that this is at the heart of how the eu referendum went.

Here - you don't want comprehensive answers , you want ..... Oh feel sorry for me,

Well shit does happen ...

Get another job!

Or moan about it some more.