Exactly one week on - happy 'leavers' how are we all feeling?

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Wow what a week
I'm still walking on air & soooooo happy we're leaving, just want A50 triggered ASAP!

Give it up, I'm not convinced by anything remainers have to say.
They just can't take the fact that they've lost
you have no sense of identity.
many remainers aren't pro-EU but anti democracy.

Jesus. That's it then. On another thread a Leave poster was outlining her optimistic ideal for all of us coming together to agree a way forward because she felt everybody deserves a say.

Right here on this thread is why she was wrong . I can't see any way forward half of us think this of the other half of us (feel free to insert vice versa if needed).

"Senior civil servants say Brexit will consume their energies for years to come, as they seek to disentangle 40 years of agreements. It will be the central focus of our politics and our government, a massive collective effort demanding ingenuity and creativity. Just think of what could have been achieved if all those resources had been directed elsewhere. Into addressing, for instance, the desperate, decades-long needs – for jobs, for housing, for a future – of those towns that have been left behind by the last 30 years of change, those towns whose people voted leave the way a passenger on a doomed train pulls the emergency cord. Instead, all this work will be devoted to constructing a set-up with the EU which, if everything goes our way, might be only a little bit worse than what we already had in our hands on 22 June."

Sorry- posted too soon. That was from an article by Johnathan Freedland. I think the image of pulling the emergency cord is a very telling one.

Still happy , the world has not imploded, the pound is still up.

Nothing was going to happen over night

What do you think is going to happen in the future?

Bert - nobody knows that not remain or leavers unless you have a crystal ball

Well, remainers have some idea- business as usual.

Do you really have no idea?

Really have my head in my hands over 'the world has not imploded' statement, and others of its ilk.

Is that really all you hope for? Another day of existence?

www.theweek.co.uk/brexit-0

Or this

www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-what-next-reasons-to-be-positive-eu-referendum-jeremy-corbyn-a7104016.html

And as for saying that no one can predict the future, why the blind bloody faith that things will get better then? You might as well admit that you have absolutely no idea what you have voted for.

I'd really love to hear how I am going to go from redundancy to cheery home owner. I really want to know! Please fucking tell me how I am going to get richer from being made poorer now. You must have some great idea for how this is going to work?

"the pound is still up. "

Yes the pound has risen slightly since it fell to a 31 year low on Monday, however it is nowhere near the level it was at on average this year.

The FTSE is doing ok, but only some firms, especially those with large over seas earnings. Banks and Homebuilders are very very down on what they were prior to brexit, which indicates fears of low consumer confidence and falls in house prices. The BOE has indicated that interest rates will fall further, and has already given banks £3bn extra in liquidity and has £250 bn more to offer.

Stop saying "things are ok" they aren't, haven't you learned that just saying things doesn't make them true from the leave campaign?

Here - I'm sorry but as strongly as you feel staying in the EU was a good thing I feel the same about leaving.

I do not think that it has been beneficial to us just restrictive. I do not feel that the EU has our interests in their sights

I lost my job and house in the last recession and that was whilst being part of the eu .

Why did that happen because an EU company bought out my old firm and relocated to another country. This was done with the aid of an Eu grant.

That does not, in any way whatsoever, answer my question.

Like I said upthread, I don't have confidence that Brexit will make us wealthier or happier as a nation or as individuals. I voted leave because I could not reconcile my conscience with a vote for a wealthy northern predominantly white trade cartel, and because I could not bear to condone, in any way, what has been done to Greece, Spain and Italy within that cartel.

It's not about us being richer, for me. It's about seeing one opportunity to put a spanner in the wheels of a system that contributes to inequality on a global scale.

I have no idea whether that spanner will have the desired effect, but if it makes the EU players stop and think eek, youth unemployment above 40% in Spain, maybe we need to alter course so we don't leave quite so many people behind as we pursue our vision of a happy European global power, then I'm inclined to think it's a price worth paying.

Here - I have no idea what you do for a living, I have no idea about rent, mortgages, loans, pension, food , car bills etc how can I comment

Will you be unlikely to get another job?

What do you do

But you realise this could have happened if the UK had been part of the EU or not?

Also do you feel that the leave campaign has your best interests at heart? Only if they ask permission from Murdoch and Rothmere first.

If you don't understand the benefits that free trade with the rest of Europe have brought, then I don't have time to explain them to you.

What restrictions do you think the EU brought that we will be freed from when we leave?

I would like to add everybody voted for their own personal reasons.... Not how it will affect someone who lives ten doors down.

They voted on how the eu affects them

Lower house prices would be an excellent thing, IMO (and I say that as a home owner with a big mortgage who stands to lose personally from any such fall). House prices are ridiculously over inflated, and that helps to cement the division between rich and poor. I'd like nothing more than to see the housing market fall enough that the buy to letters no longer see it as a good investment, and those who currently cannot afford to buy find a way out of the rent trap.

I understand that free trade within the single market has been fabulous for us. Not so fabulous for the global south trying to sell things to Europe with the disadvantage of tariffs.

I didn't vote leave because it's best for us. I voted leave because I think that might be best for some of the less wealthy nations with whom we would become free to make individual trade agreements outside the EU's collective interests.

Still happy , the world has not imploded, the pound is still up.

No it's not. It had been bumping along at about $1.45 for the last 6 months or so. It's now at $1.32.

Unless you think a 10% fall in its value against the dollar is the same as "up"?

So if we get made redundant, we get another job?

So how does this plan see more jobs for the UK?

Lower house prices will not necessarily lead to current potential first time buyers getting on the ladder.

If prices fall significantly there will be a recession as consumers will be less confident and stop spending. Also it means that people will be in negative equity and repossessions will go up. Banks will not be able to get what they lent to people back and will have to write off this money.

All of this makes banks far more reticent to lend, so deposits will need to be larger, back to 25%, and mutiples of salary lower. All of this makes in less likely that people will get on the housing ladder. Even if prices fall by 18% predicted.

"I voted leave because I think that might be best for some of the less wealthy nations with whom we would become free to make individual trade agreements outside the EU's collective interests."

What a load of drivel. You can pretend that you voted leave out of some misguided philanthropic values, but its still a load of rubbish.

I voted remain but came on here to see if there really were any positives.

Do you know what's driving me mad though people keep saying the pound is recovering? WTF are you basing that comment on I can see no evidence of this 0.03 pence up against the Euro in one week? And 1.5% not steadily increasing following an 8% fall against the dollar? That does not equal recovery

'I didn't vote leave because it's best for us.'

Jesus titty fucking Christ.

Here - answer my questions .... You moaned I didn't answer yours whic I said I can't because I don't have the information