Exactly one week on - happy 'leavers' how are we all feeling?

[Surferjet]

Wow what a week
I'm still walking on air & soooooo happy we're leaving, just want A50 triggered ASAP!

I'm not an expert. I think T May will get the leadership and immediately pass laws for indefinite detention without charge and so forth and in the negotiations will make sure that the European court of Human Rights will have no checks and balances with respect to the UK so she can do what she likes with suspected criminals
All Brown people or people who speak with a funny accent will become suspected criminals and forced firstly into ghettos like Barking and East Ham and then out of the country
The NHS will collapse and this will be blamed on immigration
The City will decline and this will be blamed on immigration
Social Inequalities will increase and in five years time there will be a peasants revolt. and Labour will get in
There will be fewer wars because no one will want to buy arms from the UK anymore as it will be more difficult to launder the cash.

So your best answer is that you don't have to answer?

LOL

If everyone is so happy, they should surely be able explain why they are happy. There must be tangible benefits that they foresee that they can describe.

I totally understand that immigration is a real worry, for example. So what will it look like in the future now that we have taken back control of our borders?

Mango, a poster called dragonsarebest started a thread called something like 'genuine q, what does the uk get out of this?' Leave voters couldn't name a single one beyond a return to imperial measurements and possibly Hinckley Point power station not going ahead.

there are several other EU nations that are pushing for a referendum

Which nations are pushing for a referendum? I am aware of some right wing factions in other EU nations pushing for this, but that's not the same thing at all, is it?

No, there are some right wing elements pushing for it, nothing on a real scale.

^^This

I don't understand why you don't want to share this beatific feeling with the rest of us by telling us what you have to be so happy about. Don't be stink.

You could make my day here.

I said that I hoped for life to be better for all people currently of the U.K. as well as future immigrants too.

The problem is, Mango, that you didn't explain how life would be better either for current or future immigrants, particularly given the way that immigrants in the country are currently being targeted by racists.

At no point was the premise of this thread "Leave voters who are happy: please state reasons for your elation. Please ensure to articulate exactly why you think Brexit was A Good Thing". If you want the above thread, then probs best to start it tbh

I'm not sure if you've noticed, Mango, but this is a discussion forum. Very few, if any, long discussions stick rigidly to the premise of the opening statement, that's the nature of discussion. In fact, if all an OP wants to say is that she's happy, without any discussion at all, it's difficult to understand why she would even bother to start a thread. She can go off and tell the cat instead.

So, that exact thread has been started and it confirmed my suspicion that Leave voters voted for absolutely nothing they can articulate - just meaningless sound bites about control and sovereignty which amount to nothing at all. The only thing they are agreed on is that nothing that was promised in the Leave campaign will happen and that things will definitely be shit in the short term but they hope better in the long run. With usual caveats about not being able to predict anything. Sounds great to me!

Well that was a thread to relentlessly push for the 'answers' then, surely?

Some people are sick of people expecting them to be 'answerable' to them and be the voice of Brexit.

This thread was 'are you still a happy leaver'.... and that was it.
Not why are you happy, just are you still happy.

I personally then had to defend myself against accusations of 'calling for WW3' which was frankly ridiculous as I did nothing of the sort, and also continued unfounded accusations of racism by one poster.

Can you see how tiring and relentless it is?
I came on to say "yes! I'm still happy", but then got dragged into the mire yet again by posters demanding 'answers'.

Wow what a week

walking on air

Remain Voters: "Why are you walking on air and so happy"

OP and other Leave voters: "Er...um...look just fuck off and start your own thread"

So not able to name a single thing then....riiight!

Do enjoy your flag waving then. Meanwhile back in the real world the rest of us worry about the impact of all this on spending cuts which have been promised. I am serious...if you are vulnerable you are fucked as it's all cut to the bone anyway.

I wonder if you even know yourself what is good about this.

Poor Mango!
You did such good job finding good sides of 2 world wars, got really tired and can't pull yourself together to do the same for Brexit

Mango, but Why ARE you happy? The arse has fallen out of the known world and you are celebrating. Surely it is not too much to ask why this is?

In fact, I'd actually say I'm not happy at this point in time.
Not remotely happy.

I'm sad & dismayed in equal measure.

Not by what is going on with politics at the moment, not with impending Brexit, but with the behaviour of people.

I am saddened & angry by the rise in hatred.
I am appalled beyond belief at the disgusting accounts of overt racism, general nastiness and hate crimes out there in the real world.

I am disgusted & aghast & saddened by the vitriol of some posters on MN - the horrible, nasty twisting of words etc, personal attacks, people chasing other people down over the boards.

It's horrific.
All of it.

So no.
I'm not happy.
Far from it.

I am seriously considering getting the foreign passport I am entitled to apply for. Leaving my home nation for good. And you can't even find a couple of sentences to describe why it is that you are happy with this all.

The racism on the street is a direct result of the referendum. The vitriol on here is because people's lives and futures are in peril and people cannot give one reason to back up the way they voted. One reason how everyone's lives will in fact be better. The same posters all over the threads telling people they are bad losers and to suck it up without ONE SINGLE Description of how it will be better. Can people not understand why that makes others angry?

Mango, I'm with you but on an upside and I thought that was the point of this thread I've just won £20 on the horses yay and also I've been investing small amounts of spare cash in gold not jewellery on royalmint and that's gone up. Yes I know it can go down but its still there.

Well, that makes all of us then. Leave or Remain, we have been let down by this referendum and the awful, unforgivable campaigning that went with it. We shouldn't have been asked this question. Someone like Farage should never have been allowed such influence. The lies should never have been told. The hatred should not have been stirred up. This terrible decision should never have been taken. The disasters spiralling from it, from the justified anger of us Remainers at losing so much, the hideous spectre of racism, the divisions, the chaos, the turmoil should never have been whipped up by this awful referendum that has made all of us on either side so unhappy. It should be set aside for the sake of everyone now, but whatever happens the resentment and bitterness and rage isn't going anywhere soon. It's terrible for us all.

You are like the lobster who led his friends to a pool party... In a saucepan.

There have also been threads demanding people Stop Complaining and Start Pulling Together (I paraphrase) - when asked what everyone should be doing, we get mainly meaningless slogans.

I may have missed it - and if so I'd love someone to point me in the right direction - but I think on all those threads there were a grand total of 2 suggestions that actually meant something. One was effectively "Everybody needs to spend us out of recession." Um, nope. If Leave voters feel so confident in the future, you spend us out of recession. The other I can at least get behind in principle was "Buy British if you can" which I think was actually from a Remain voter!

Still no-one doing forward to list the tangible benefits?

Coming forward (sorry - bloody phone). I am going to enjoy the EU capped roaming charges on my forthcoming holiday.

Breaking free of an unaccountable and bloated kleptocracy. That would be one benefit. Less wastage of our money, that will be good. Being able to make our own trade agreements with the rest of the world instead of waiting years and years for the EU to reach a deal. All these things will be nice. It's sad that a lot of people who voted remain are so bitter. My one comfort, if we had voted remain, was that at least it would have been a majority vote, and that was what people wanted. It seems not to obtain the other way around.

Just one more thing, it would be looking at Jean-Claude and thinking that he will no longer have one whit or ounce of power over my life.