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Andrea Leadsom - please stand for leadership!

684 replies

Millyonthefloss2 · 29/06/2016 10:46

Anyone agree?

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roundaboutthetown · 06/07/2016 12:21

A bit like the boring Brussels bureaucrats, eh? Wink

howabout · 06/07/2016 12:42

And risk is managed every which way you can imagine

Right up until the point where it is not being managed at all because no-one can see the wood for the trees. I saw the move towards risk based capital and netting off of gross exposures and risk repackaging and could see the equivalent of the insurance market reinsurance spiral. I was receiving higher interest on my savings than mortgage rates at the time of the banking crisis. Given my background that was enough to tell me there was a problem. I do not have much confidence in any of the so-called investment professionals of that period.

The fact that AL's contemporaries are seeking to pour scorn on her experience incline me more towards her.

SnowBells · 06/07/2016 13:46

howabout

'Asset management' is not 'investment banking' - unfortunately, people don't know the difference. Think asset management = long game, you really believe in the companies you invest, etc.; investment banking = opportunistic.

Believe me... most companies would jump at the chance to say they produced a possible PM. The fact that AL's colleagues have not been too positive should tell you something.

SnowBells · 06/07/2016 13:49

howabout

Right up until the point where it is not being managed at all because no-one can see the wood for the trees. I saw the move towards risk based capital and netting off of gross exposures and risk repackaging and could see the equivalent of the insurance market reinsurance spiral. I was receiving higher interest on my savings than mortgage rates at the time of the banking crisis.

This has nothing to do with asset management, and all to do with investment banking...

howabout · 06/07/2016 14:12

I am aware of the difference. I am also well aware of the intersections and interconnections. Retail domestic banking should have had nothing to do with international investment banking and yet it did ...

SnowBells · 06/07/2016 14:36

howabout

Because humans never learn from history.

There was a reason the Glass-Steagall Act existed in the US, and decades later, sections of it were repealed...

howabout · 06/07/2016 14:53

And that explains why GO still manages to convince that austerity is the answer to depression Sad

Vri123 · 06/07/2016 15:42

You mean the lessons learned in the early 1930s when govts cut spending in response to the 1929 crash, thereby turning a bad recession into a deep depression?

I don't know AL. I never met her and had never heard of her before this year. I do know a bit about investment management though. Its bitchy. Some people are collegiate, but even the collegiate ones will be overheard bitching that someone across the floor isn't really sharp enough, that their job is really "admin" and so on. The minute I start thinking about it, 100s of examples come flooding into my head.

AL's job doesn't sound like she made investment decisions. She probably did not manage money, she probably did not contribute to asset allocation decisions. Instead it sounds to me like she had a sort of COO role to the CIO - his troubleshooter, the person who he could call on to coordinate different parts of the business whenever there was a strategic decision to be analysed, decided upon and implemented. Its the sort of job you give to people who are very knowledgeable and very effective i.e. the ones you reserve the words of highest praise for viz "they get things done".

If my guess is correct, then I think that's pretty good. My only thought is that its wrong to lie, or even just let a lie persist.

Sallyingforth · 06/07/2016 15:51

Finance is only one aspect of being PM, and you have a Chancellor and the BoE to advise.

You also have to understand welfare issues, education, international relations, diplomacy, military matters...

ErrolTheDragon · 06/07/2016 16:29

I was quite impressed when I read her wiki entry a few days ago - thanks to this thread for enlightening me. And also huff post ... Urgh.

RedToothBrush · 06/07/2016 17:03

There was a reason the Glass-Steagall Act existed in the US, and decades later, sections of it were repealed...

How are you feeling about the easing of capital controls on banks this week by the BoE?

ManonLescaut · 07/07/2016 12:04

FT ran a really good article yesterday on Leadsom's massaged CV.

As it's subscription only, I have C&P'd the article below (which I'm not strictly supposed to do).

Andrea Leadsom has published a revised CV after claims that she exaggerated her roles in a City of London career that supporters describe as “stellar”.

The Conservative leadership candidate has often referred to her 25 years of experience in finance, recounting how she spent the weekend with Eddie George, the late governor of the Bank of England, calming the fears of bankers after Barings collapsed.

She told the BBC last weekend that she had “run enormous teams, small teams, start-up businesses”. But former colleagues at Barclays and Invesco Perpetual have claimed that Mrs Leadsom has overblown the importance of her roles at both institutions.

The CV published by her staff on Wednesday changed some details from earlier versions — downgrading the seniority of one role — and contained an inaccuracy that her spokesman could not explain.

Her level of experience in banking and fund management has become a key issue for her campaign, especially after she came second behind Theresa May in the first round of voting by Conservative MPs to choose their next leader and prime minister.

Having previously said she worked as “financial institutions director” at Barclays in her Who’s Who entry and in an article she wrote for the FT, Ms Leadsom’s new CV now lists her role as “deputy financial institutions director, managing global banking network”.

Mrs Leadsom’s spokesman said the confusion arose because she had held two “contemporaneous roles”, one as deputy director of financial institutions and the other as “project director, preparing bank for the euro”.

In her maiden speech to parliament in 2010 she said: “Eddie George, the then governor of the Bank of England, called together a small group of bankers, including myself, and we worked over the weekend to calm the fears of banks that were exposed to Barings.”

But several former Barclays executives who were in senior positions when Mrs Leadsom was working at the bank say they do not remember her — despite her recent claim to have been the bank’s youngest ever director. One said: “I think some of the claims about her seniority are somewhat fanciful.”

But her supporters complain that Mrs Leadsom is the victim of a smear campaign. Penny Mordaunt, a Conservative MP and ally of Mrs Leadsom in the victorious Leave campaign, said: “This is a concerted effort to rubbish a stellar career and imply that she was just making the tea.”

At Barclays “she was running a fund, she was also managing the global banking network”, Ms Mordaunt told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme. “Andrea’s stock is high in this area.”

One indication of the relatively junior level of her financial sector jobs is that Mrs Leadsom is listed in the financial services register under her maiden name of Salmon for only a three-month period during her time at Invesco.

Her new CV also says she worked as “managing director” at De Putron Fund Management, the hedge fund run by her brother-in-law Peter de Putron, after she left Barclays in 1997. But the annual return for the company filed at Companies House in 1999 lists her title as “marketing director” — seemingly a more junior role.

“You have to be very careful with job titles that make people look very important — titles like ‘managing director’, ‘head of’, ‘chief of’,” said Nick Hedley, a founder of Hedley May, which recruits for jobs across the City. “They can hide somewhat what the real role is. I think in general there is a lot of grade inflation of titles that goes on in the relatively flat structure of financial services.”

Mrs Leadsom’s time at Invesco is also in dispute. A former member of the executive committee at Invesco Perpetual from 1996-2003 said: “Andrea who? She had no involvement in fund management, she had no presence whatsoever in the organisation. I would speak to the fund managers on a daily basis. I never came across her. She’s been very naive on this.”

Robert Stephens, a former colleague of hers at Invesco, wrote on the Reactions website that claims about her financial sector experience “risk misleading people”.

“Last week, at my prompting, she corrected her CV with Wikipedia and Who’s Who, changing her title from the obviously incorrect chief investment officer to the titles of senior investment officer and head of corporate governance,” Mr Stephens wrote.

“Her actual job was to work (sometimes part-time) on ‘special projects’, mostly for the chief investment officer. These included, for example, negotiating pay terms for senior fund managers. Towards the end of her time, she advised on a couple of governance issues.”

“As I understand it she had no one reporting to her in either role, so the words senior and head are, one might say, superfluous,” he added.

Mrs Leadsom has lent heavily on her experience in the City when criticising senior bankers, including when she criticised Mark Carney, the Bank of England governor, for “going outside of his remit and giving a personal opinion” about the risks of Brexit.

ManonLescaut · 07/07/2016 12:34

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/06/andrea-leadsoms-cv-prompts-new-questions-about-career

Snippet:

"Robert Stephens told the Guardian that she “absolutely, emphatically” had no involvement in controlling funds and that her title was not representative of her responsibilities.

“What does senior investment officer convey to the uninitiated? If you’ve got a chief investment officer, you would think the senior investment is someone with just slightly less responsibility than the chief investment officer. This is totally untrue; she had no investment management responsibilities at all,” he said.

An MP who had worked alongside Leadsom on the Treasury select committee, but asked not be named, said he was concerned the energy minister’s career in finance was being misunderstood. Given she was authorised by the City regulator to manage investments for only a brief period of time, he said: “I don’t think she would have been running money, making [Invesco investment] decisions.”

The Treasury select committee MP told the Guardian: “I cannot quite see why a 30-year-old would be in a huddle with Eddie George in the middle of the Barings crisis. Yes, she was there. But David Cameron was photographed behind Norman Lamont [during the Black Wednesday financial crisis in 1992]. That doesn’t mean he played a big role in sorting that crisis out.”

squoosh · 07/07/2016 12:43

Well, she seems ummm, trustworthy..............

member · 07/07/2016 12:46

She kept quiet about her time in The Spice Girls

Andrea Leadsom - please stand for leadership!
roundaboutthetown · 07/07/2016 13:25

Tory Spice.

Ailicece · 07/07/2016 13:45

Read this and weep. All taken from her own blog.

We're in trouble. But then we already knew that.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/07/9-reasons-you-should-be-truly-terrified-andrea-leadsom-becoming-prime-minister

chicaguapa · 07/07/2016 13:53

I haven't RTFT but has it been mentioned that her new nickname is Andrea Loathsome!? Grin

Vri123 · 07/07/2016 13:56

Well she won't be speaking for Guardian - or New Statesman - readers with those views, but how likely are they to vote Conservative anyway? Once they can't bring themselves to vote for Corbyn, then the Liberals and Green party will be the beneficiaries.

Sallyingforth · 07/07/2016 15:21

She was interviewed on the World at One today (R4), claiming that previous CVs were nothing to do with her and only the latest one was accurate. Then had to struggle to defend it.
Clearly she hasn't had anything like the level of experience / authority that has been claimed for her.

LikeDylanInTheMovies · 07/07/2016 15:31

After her multiple car crash interviews, what odds a Gove vs May run off?

Sallyingforth · 07/07/2016 15:39

We'll find out verrrrry soon...

SnowBells · 07/07/2016 15:45

I guess AL is the lesser of two evils...

member · 07/07/2016 16:32

Bloody hell, it's May v Leadsom.

Having seen my (Tory) MP's facebook page where she was canvassing opinion on who to vote for in Leadership race, there was a lot of support for Leadsom off the back of her appearances in Brexit campaign.

Really rather hoped MPs would send Gove through as he wouldn't have stood a snowball's chance in hell.

LineyReborn · 07/07/2016 16:33

The world is even weirder than I ever thought possible.

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