Are leave voters happy with how this is playing out so far?

[Bearbehind]

Inpsired by Boris Johnson’s sister’s Tweet about people saying we are where we are but nobody having a clue where that is; which group of Leave voters are happy with how things are panning out?

From what I’ve seen the Leave voters seem to fall into these categories, in no particular order:-

1. People who heard nothing more than the word ‘immigration’ and voted based on all the borders being closed and every immigrant being deported on Friday
   
2. People who believed the nonsense touted by the Leave campaign about £350m for the NHS etc
   
3. People who voted as a protest to get their voice heard
   
4. People who believed leaving the EU was a good thing for their own spurious reasons (to get our own back for Eurovision, to get UK tomatoes, to not have to watch the Euros football, to stop the Germans stealing our sunbeds etc) but had no idea of the other consequences
   
5. People who truly believe we should not be governed by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels
   
   Taking each group in turn, I can’t see how they have got what they want
   
   
6. Doesn’t even merit a response as it was such an appalling reason to vote
   
7. These have been proven to be lies as soon as the vote was over
   
8. This was a self defeating protest as it handed the control to the very people they were protesting against
   
9. Some of those people are now worried about job loses, the value of the pound, the drops in the stock market as they didn’t foresee that
   
10. There is no plan to get out of the EU- Boris seems to think we can have our cake and eat it but the EU aren’t having that
    
    Is there another group of people who are genuinely happy with the way things are shaping up?

[ExitPursuedByBear]

[Bearbehind]

So the 6th category is 'unicorns and rainbows' that weren't on offer either?

[caitlinohara]

Mitzy But that's exactly what Remain would have said, had they won. The country was already split, but the venom being expressed on both sides now is totally unhelpful.

[MitzyLeFrouf]

Well that's just the way it is I'm afraid! And yes it would have happened if Remain had won by 52% too. That is the nature of these bitterly fought referenda. You can wish it was all sunshine and roses but it's not going to happen. The country is divided. Especially as it's all too clear now that not one fucker had a Leave strategy in place.

[ReallyTired]

I still believe that chosing the leave option will be better for the UK in the long term even if we have chaos at the moment. Even if we are forced to leave the entire single market we will still be better off than being in the EU in five years time.

A low value of the pound will make easier to sell our exports. It will be two years before we have any tariffs.

[caitlinohara]

Well, in that case we have a choice of carrying on bickering about it amongst ourselves, or we get on with making the best of it. The politicians on both sides are letting us down - we should all be united in holding them to account, whichever way we voted.

[peppatax]

I agree that sterling would have nosedived but I'm not convinced it wouldn't have slid a bit had a marginal 'remain' vote won - that's not presenting at convincing or stable to overseas markets either

[caitlinohara]

I don't hear any solutions being offered by Remainers either Draylon, just that everything is irretrievably fucked and it's all our fault. What I'm saying is, that's no help to anyone now.

[peppatax]

There are so many scenarios and what ifs that would be better than this. I completely agree it's now about holding politicians to account and given the level of discontent between the two camps of voters I just can't ever see it happening, it will always come back to the referendum

[MitzyLeFrouf]

carrying on bickering about it amongst ourselves, or we get on with making the best of it.'

People disagreeing on MN will not make one whit of difference to what happens to the UK. At the moment I can't see what it is we're suppose to make the best of. No one has a clue as to what is actually going to happen.

[peppatax]

I can't say I'd have been too chuffed had 'remain' won but I'd have got over and thought 'better the devil you know' rather than put dog poo through my neighbours' letterbox

[MitzyLeFrouf]

'I'd have got over and thought 'better the devil you know' rather than put dog poo through my neighbours' letterbox'



By winning the Leave camp have put a ton of metaphorical dogshit through ALL our letterboxes.

[caitlinohara]

Mitzy I just feel that a lot of people, myself included, are spending an awful lot of time and energy at the moment debating something that has already happened and cannot be changed now. If you really want a second referendum and you think that's the best way forward, by all means sign the petition. What exactly would YOU like to happen now (bearing in mind that time travel is not possible )?

[peppatax]

Back to my first comment - the tragedy is the way it's been handled, not the original result

[MitzyLeFrouf]

I'm going to wait and see what options are offered up by the various vultures vying for power at Westminster. It seems pretty clear that some of them will be doing so with an eye on appeasing the 48%.

[Badbadbunny]

It's as expected - an out vote was always going to cause a few hiccups along the way. Theo Pathitis blogged about what he thought an exit vote would cause before the referendum and his wise words are coming true:-

www.theopaphitis.com/theos-blog-decision-made-voting-with-my-head-saving-my-heart-for-love/

Can't imagine anyone thought things would be all rosy however it went with it being such an important once-in-a-lifetime event.

[caitlinohara]

Draylon If it really suits you to believe that we are in a downward spiral and nothing can be done, fine, I think we'll have to agree to disagree and time will tell. I have to quote Mervyn King here and say that we may well look back on this in years to come and say that actually in terms of the economy this was a bit of a fuss about nothing. here

[tabulahrasa]

"Especially as it's all too clear now that not one fucker had a Leave strategy in place."

It was really clear before as well, which is one huge reason why I for one and I'm sure why many others didn't vote leave.

[MitzyLeFrouf]

*It's as expected&

Ah, you expected Johnson and Gove to be blindsided by victory, not have any plans in place, and then backtrack on all campaign promises.

I see.

[Bearbehind]

I don't hear any solutions being offered by Remainers either

Eh? Why would they offer any solution- it's not what they wanted.

So far no one has convinced me anyone is happy with where we are and the fact there's no plan means that's not going to change anytime soon.