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AIBU to think leave voters who said 'I'm not racist...'

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twofingerstoGideon · 27/06/2016 07:01

...should now be shouting very loudly against the wave of racist/xenophobic attacks which have happened since last Friday.

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While not all leave voters are racists, the majority of racists voted leave (BNP/EDL members etc). They now seem to think the vote gives them free rein to express their hateful views.

Until now, I haven't seen any 'non-racist' Brexiter say 'not in my name...' Their silence is making me feel very uncomfortable.

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angelos02 · 27/06/2016 09:45

Xmas depends on what you mean by 'rights protected'?

I wished I'd voted to remain seeing as it looks as though nothing extreme is going to happen.

Kimononono · 27/06/2016 09:46

Sorry read that wrong. I voted leave and I don't expect anybody who lives here now to get up and leave. Why should they?

frumpet · 27/06/2016 09:49

One of my friends voted leave , she is actually a lovely person , her arguments for voting leave were I think misguided , she probably thinks my reasons for staying are possibly slightly on the hysterical side ! I still like her and I will not let this ruin our friendship ( other than being Miss smuggity mcsmug pants everytime something bad happens as a direct result of leaving the EU ) Wink

GrimmauldPlace · 27/06/2016 09:50

Eh? I assume that in the next few years, everyone that is not a British citizen will have to apply to stay. I didn't vote Leave for there to be an amnesty on who happens to be here being allowed to stay. Unless you are vital to the UK, you ought to be planning on leaving

I presume you agree with other countries sending all the 'expats' who live out there back home to the UK as well then?

What are you hoping to happen? Round 'em all up and get them to justify why they deserve to stay here? Who does it apply to?

SandyY2K · 27/06/2016 09:54

A vote to leave is no confirmation of racism. That in itself is a narrow minded view.

BettyDraper1 · 27/06/2016 09:59

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OfficiallyUnofficial · 27/06/2016 10:01

I support the leave voters BECAUSE I want to stop racism. I therefore now think remain voters should apologise for the racist diatribe we are in.

I think the loss of national identity, awful terrible murderous response even of the EU to the refugee crisis (encouraging more to kill themselves trying), the total disengagement of the non urban areas has absolutely been the cause of the swing to the far right ACROSS EUROPE. And that 2nd 3rd gen immigrants who were previously valued and integrated now get abused with the same stick by a dispossessed white underclass.

You in your Ivory towers have created this, while I appreciate they may for now see it as a win, in the long term I believe this nasty undercurrent will be battered back down and we can become proud to be a mongrel nation again.

I support leave for the future of my mixed race kids. I've said it in various places is that clear enough for you op? Can I have MY explanation and apology from a remain voter now?

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 27/06/2016 10:02

betty draper theres no need to use offensive disablist comments

Asprilla11 · 27/06/2016 10:04

Helmetbymidnight

I don't think remainers do have a responsibility here actually

I think they do, this is why.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/2671677-EU-Referendum-Racists-and-Xenophobes?watched=1&msgid=61977691#61977691

MangoMoon · 27/06/2016 10:06

I agree OfficiallyUnoffial.

The far right will increasingly have less support as a result of us leaving the EU.

They had shrewdly tapped in to, and exploited, the legitimate concerns of a long ignored section of society.

BettyDraper1 · 27/06/2016 10:09

apologies fanjo I was paraphrasing something that was said on one of these threads on Saturday.

Binkybix · 27/06/2016 10:18

Eh? I assume that in the next few years, everyone that is not a British citizen will have to apply to stay. I didn't vote Leave for there to be an amnesty on who happens to be here being allowed to stay. Unless you are vital to the UK, you ought to be planning on leaving

I think you're going to be bitterly disappointed.

Laiste · 27/06/2016 10:35

From what i've read on MN the last few days the only people 'whipping up racial unrest' are the remainers.

BeingHuman · 27/06/2016 10:35

I voted leave and I'd be lying if I said that immigration wasn't a factor. We need controlled borders like America has being people in with skills, trades and homes to go to. If that makes me racist then so be it!!

That doesn't mean I agree with what's been happening. However I think having an opinion isn't racist, that it's just branded as such because people are unable to deal with difference in opinion.

n0ne · 27/06/2016 10:40

I can't believe people are denying the racist incidents are happening! My Londoner born and bred, Indian descent best mate was shouted at to go back where she came from on Friday. For the first time since the 80s. Am I lying? Is she? How dare you?!?!?

So all the posts on Twitter #PostRefRacism are made up, are they, because the Remainers have some kind of agenda? Ain't nobody got time for dat!

n0ne · 27/06/2016 10:42

twitter.com/postrefracism

OurBlanche · 27/06/2016 10:49

I can't believe people are denying the racist incidents are happening! Where are they doing that here?

I have said that one specific nationally reported incident has not been reported locally. A voice of caution, given the high emotions running at the moment.

But nobody in their right mind would suggest that those who were racist pillocks before the referendum have changed their attitudes, or that some of them are feeling brave enough to act on their neanderthal urges.

Just as nobody in their right minds would suggest that all Leavers are partaking in such crimes and that all Remainers are absolved of any social responsibility!

Far too much infammatory rhetoric on all sides!

Letmehaveausername · 27/06/2016 10:53

You clearly haven't been looking very hard then because a lot of us leave voters have been denouncing the bloody racism/xenophobia!!!!!

A leave vote for a lot of us had fuck all to do with immigration!! Those of us that actually did the research and looked at all of the facts KNEW that immigration wouldn't be affected, there would still be freedom of movement and a lot of us agree that immigration is what makes this nation as divers and wonderful as it is!!!!!

So before you go spouting off a load of shit get a reality check and actually look at a lot of the threads on here with a lot of leave voters having to explain and re-explain that we are not against immigrants, not xenophobic and do not agree with what's been taking place since the results were announced!!!!!!

Letmehaveausername · 27/06/2016 10:55

Diverse*

OurBlanche · 27/06/2016 10:55

Bugger, allow me to correct that!

But nobody in their right mind would suggest that those who were racist pillocks before the referendum have changed their attitudes, or that some of them are not feeling brave enough to act on their neanderthal urge. they obviously are .

Helmetbymidnight · 27/06/2016 10:58

There was something like this on another thread. I clicked on the link and noticed I was in the vicinity of one of the "reported incidents". My hearing and my eyes must have failed me because I saw and heard nothing.

I'm unconvinced the number has risen in three days.

Odd... that racist incident in Tesco, Gloucester, reported as having happened on Friday, or was it Saturday (that depends on which paper you read, apparently!), in the national press... never heard of it here in Gloucester.

Ok. Fine. No one is seeking to deny or minimize racist incidents. No one at all, especially not you Our Blanche.

OurBlanche · 27/06/2016 11:02

My post wasn't minimising or denying that they occur. I was saying that not all of the reports should betaken at face value... look, in that same post, the bit you seem not to have read:

I have said that one specific nationally reported incident has not been reported locally. A voice of caution, given the high emotions running at the moment.

Do you think only racists and Leavers lie? Do you believe everything you read in the national press?

Helmetbymidnight · 27/06/2016 11:03

A leave vote for a lot of us had fuck all to do with immigration!!

That's simply not true. For so many - and there are people on this thread saying this - immigration IS the main reason they voted out.

I assume that in the next few years, everyone that is not a British citizen will have to apply to stay. I didn't vote Leave for there to be an amnesty on who happens to be here being allowed to stay. Unless you are vital to the UK, you ought to be planning on leaving

Now, I don't even think anyone concerned about immigration is racist. I think the the majority of them are worried about their hospitals and schools.

We both agree they were completely misguided though because very little is going to change on that score.

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