AIBU to be seriously considering leaving the UK after Friday's result?

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Appalled at the outcome on Friday and not willing to give up for our DC the rights to live work and study in the EU we've enjoyed, we are looking to move to a friendly EU country in October with a view eventually to gaining back our EU citizenship. Don't think we can rely on anything better coming out of the Brexit negotiations. DH works on the internet and I have a TEFL qualification so think we'll manage financially. DC are all pre school age. Obviously however this is going to be a major upheaval and it'll be more difficult to stay in touch with family etc, who are likely to be upset. AIBU and/or mad to be going this far? Am in two minds at present.

Us too, sooner rather than later. Speaking to recruiters tomorrow. It's likely one or both of us will lose jobs thanks to Brexit, and with so many other firms in my sector leaving the UK we may not have a choice as there will be few jobs here and a lot of people on the market.

But it's more than that; I'm genuinely frightened about the country we're becoming. Racist attacks in the street. No political leadership. And when large swathes of the population realise they have been completely lied to and their problems won't be solved by leaving the EU, it could get uglier still.

georgette
I loved my country as it was, a union of four nations which was pragmatic and tolerant, not the hobbled remains of a Little England run by smug racist pensioners that it looks like it's going to become. This is not a country for young people.
just think for a moment about why your country was the way it is. You are being ageist about pensioners who worked and paid taxes so that you can have the country you feel you are entitled to
I am so ashamed of the 'young people' who are turning on the older generation this way - wishing we would die and such slogans. We have made this country what it is - a little respect would be good - so perhaps you should leave after all.

I'm not ageist at all, but actually, the baby boomers have a lot to blame themselves for.

replace the word 'ageist' by 'racist' and see how unacceptable you sound.

Georgette, your posts here are great. This especially: 'I loved my country as it was, a union of four nations which was pragmatic and tolerant, not the hobbled remains of a Little England run by smug racist pensioners that it looks like it's going to become. This is not a country for young people.' - the whole of that post had me nodding in agreement.

Lol at Mollie's 'ageist' comments. Maybe you don't appreciate the irony of the comment 'We have made this country what it is'. The Leavers were so pissed off at the state of the country that they preferred outright revolution to the current state of affairs, and inquiries about Irish passports are flooding in from thousands who can't see a future for themselves in a country that is going to disintegrate soon.

Lynnm:
I would be laughing at your comments on NI if it wasn't for the woeful ignorance you reveal.

Bye bye drama llamas

All the Australians I've ever met have been shockingly racist about their Aborigine "problem"

Seriously , where is this tolerant utopia??

I'll stick with England thanks

I'll be going back to the Republic of Ireland once my DS is off to university in 5 years and my child benefit, child tax credits, exemption from prescriptions and dental care, free school meals and subsidised school trips, and child maintenance stop.

Oddly the baby boomers I know voted remain (mum, pils etc)
But so so many didn't.
They have sold their children and grandchildren up the river.
What a glorious revolution indeed :(

Tweeter I'll thank you not to slur my family. My DH and DC are Australian and I don;t appreciate your shite. Also "Aborigine" is a racist term...outmoded and no longer used.

Catch up with the proper terms before casting slurs please.

Genuine question here. Lots of posters have mentioned losing their jobs. I know about the banks in London that said pre referendum they would relocate if we voted to leave, are there any other large companies outside of London that have started redundancies? Seems to be a lot of people stating that they are or have already lost their jobs but I haven't seen or heard anything about it on the news.

Sorry VioletBam - I don't know the correct term (guessing Native Australian?) , I was just quoting an Australian ex- colleague. Of course not all Australian s are racist, I didn't say that. But some are. My point was that I don't think any country is free from racism ...so if people are thinking of relocating for a more tolerant society ..where are they going to go??

CreepyPasta

Firms plan to quit UK as EU vote sinks in

Foxtons and Easyjet issue profits warning

Source: Guardian

Creepypasta most likely they are talking nonsense that's why. Speculating and trying to be very doom and gloom.

I do believe some jobs will go but I highly doubt 4 days after the results so many people have suddenly been made redundant

I would believe half the nonsense posters on MN if I'm honest.

Companies have their Brexit plan in place. All they are doing now is actioning them.

But Sajid Javid has done a u-turn today on what he stated pre referendum, and Osborne has announced that there won't be an emergency budget like he stated. I voted to remain but I think we're starting to see that the scare tactics used by the remain campaign were just as low as the ones used by leave. Of course there is going to be turmoil in the markets short term, but I'm starting to think it's not going to be anywhere near as bad as we were led to believe.

Tweeter

No. It's not Native Australian.

YANBU to consider it. It's not mad. Although I'd give it a couple of years. October is way too early. you might need to get a vote in back here if a general election is called. There's a lot to play out yet but we have dealt a huge blow to our standing on the world stage.

I also agree that Europe is not the land of milk and honey (more stagnation and strife).

I am biding my time and still hope that there are enough sensible people in parliament & more common sense in the electorate to pull together and make a decent fist out of this mess.

It's going to become apparent the scale of lies and 'have cake and eat it' arguments of the leave camp.

I am considering that longer term dg and I will anyway consider a move, possibly N.America where my skills would be in demand.

Dh's family business has previously stopped us from moving but I think that could go to the wall if we have another downturn. We are not yet recovered from the last one. We could restart in the US if the political climate there remains favourable (a big if with Trump on the horizon).

Lots of my friends in science roles are talking about moving abroad. Funding will dry up and our place st the forefront of research is compromised.

I don't like the Brexiteer's attitude of "let them go" to Scottish or Irish. I am saddened by the lack of will to work together with our nearest neighbours in UK and Europe, with animosity on both sides bubbling along.

We don't have the fiscal alliance to drag us along with the eurozone interests and we have previously managed a balancing act which has led to a tenuous but lucrative role at the financial heart of Europe. Maybe that position was always untenable. It's a shame we didn't recognise the benefit we got to the City in particular and business in general. It's already too late, we have marginalised ourselves. No going back.

No, he said there won't be an emergency budget until the Autumn. He doesn't know what he's budgeting for for the moment, and he doesn't want to have to take the fall for the austerity budget - raising taxes and cutting the public services to get the deficit under control.

Between the lines - it won't be him.

Javid is just trying to keep everyone calm while the ship sinks.

If he'd said 'yes immediate recession, job losses, house price drop' everyone would panic including the markets, making it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

OP were you planning to leave the UK anyway long term?

Military feel alienated due to lack of equipment and poor housing, plus of course quite a lot will have already lived in Europe so no fear of the unknown
Teachers will want to go if that twat gove becomes pm and teaching quals are very transferable like the medical skills.

Apart from the Aus and NZ Armed Forces (don't know about the Canadians), where do you think our military would go? What would they do? Some might get jobs at NATO, but they would be up against intense competition, and you normally need to have a degree or Masters, plus several decades experience in your field, so it's not the NCOs and other ranks getting the higher paid A grade posts.

As for teachers, they would have to teach at International Schools. I can't teach in the Belgian system because I don't speak French p Flemish fluently enough, and there are other bars to my particular subject.

It's not as easy as you think, and I've been in Belgium for a decade now. Not every country applies the rules and allows freedom of movement in the way that the UK does either, so there can be barriers that you aren't even aware of.

But that's what they said would happen if we leave. That was a large part of the remain campaign - to me it's along the same lines as Johnson/Farage and the whole £350m debacle. I think it's becoming clear that no one has a clue what will happen. Though I still can't get over the fact that our government was so arrogant as to not have a plan in place for a leave vote.

We haven't left yet have we, that's the point. And we don't know the terms.

Did you really expect the budget to come the day after the vote with a resigned PM and the markets in turmoil?

We were told by DC that article 50 would be implemented immediately if we voted to leave but that's not happening. As I said previously, I think it's becoming clear that neither side has a clue if it's going to be fine and dandy or doom and gloom in the long term. Of course the markets will be in turmoil so soon after the result.