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Straw poll - if the vote was repeated tomorrow, would you change your vote?

138 replies

NonnoMum · 26/06/2016 09:53

Just that really, and although MN doesn't represent the whole of the country, how many REMAINERS would now vote LEAVE? And how many LEAVERS would now vote REMAIN?

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RaeSkywalker · 26/06/2016 13:28

Remain, remain.

LemonDrizzleFake · 26/06/2016 13:28

But it is a non-binding referendum so of course people are going to use their democratic right to lobby their MPs, and make petitions, before parliament decide on this issue.

It isn't a football match, you don't just slap the other side on the back and say "well played mate". The reasons people voted remain haven't disappeared over night (although in some cases the reason people voted leave have!).

OrangesandLemonsNow · 26/06/2016 13:30

No I wouldn't change it

InShockReally · 26/06/2016 13:34

Remain-remain.

One (very brave!) person on FB would appear to be leave-remain - they say they voted as a protest vote. Not something I would admit myself but there you go.

The poll thing is people asking parliament to consider making future referendums need a clear majority isn't it? There's no EU rule saying they have to have one. Yes it was created by a Leaver but the principle remains IMO. Also we're democratically allowed to make appeals - democracy doesn't mean "shut it" after a vote. And it's not democracy if not everyone understands the implication.

My impressions from being on MN for 4 years now is that people on MN are probably a demographic of fairly intelligent web users who canvas opinions and research stuff. They're not blinkered by a small community with fixed views, and the Daily Mail headlines to guide them. They wouldn't just "change" a leave vote because they understood the implications and accepted them. Not everyone's in that boat.

DurhamDurham · 26/06/2016 13:49

99 Yes because I don't believe it should be petitioned, I don't know anyone who has singed the petition. I don't speak for everyone who voted leave just as you don't for those who wanted to remain.
I don't agree with the original petition sorry if you find that hard to understand.

99GBPChargeToUseMyPostsJournos · 26/06/2016 13:52

I find it easy to understand. You don't seem to understand the irony of the fact it was started by a Leave voter, and yet leave voters have jumped on it calling the remain voters undemocratic.

But then it seems that Leave voters have a tendancy to think that a 48/52 win isn't decisive enough. Farage springs to mind.

MiddleAgeMiddleEngland · 26/06/2016 14:06

Remain - Remain

The only person I know who voted Leave is now saying he really regrets it, didn't think it through properly and is appalled at the consequences.

InShockReally · 26/06/2016 14:16

THIS sort of stuff shows some people realising they didn't know what they were signing up to (screen captures retweeted by a friend on Twitter).

This is partly why I signed that pointless petition - because I think it goes beyond panic and sour grapes by "the remainers". #NotAllLeavers of course, and God knows if it would actually change a result - but unlike some harsh people on MN, I do feel very sorry for those taken in, and some people (perhaps a lot) were.

I can only imagine being really angry, tired, perhaps hungry or just living in a shit area with dead end jobs or no employment; having a long-term feeling of being ignored by society; being truly disenfranchised and not feeling like part of the world, thinking that your vote doesn't count anyway.

Reading papers, hearing mates rant, frantically agreeing that it's "that groups fault"; that if you leave you'll get a better job; the NHS down the road gets a new hospital wing and better doctors. I can see it easily leading you to say a giant "fuck you" to the whole system ... And then bam. They lied to you. Immigration and free movement won't be halted. The pound has suffered. No money into the NHS, that was a lie. EU subsidies your area relied on wont be replaced.

I'd be devastated, whether that realisation hit me on day 2 or a year or more later.

Straw poll - if the vote was repeated tomorrow, would you change your vote?
Straw poll - if the vote was repeated tomorrow, would you change your vote?
goddessofsmallthings · 26/06/2016 14:18

I have no regret or remorse about voting to leave and will do so again and again, if necessary.

Littlemisslovesspiders · 26/06/2016 14:21

Well I know quite a few Remainers who have said if it was re-run they would vote leave because that was the democratic decision that the country made.

You are of the assumption that everything Cameron and the remain campaign said was true.

thebestfurchinchilla · 26/06/2016 14:29

Leave on Thursday and leave today and leave tomorrow.

beetroot2 · 26/06/2016 14:30

Voted leave and would do again. Just goes to show what a crap government we have.

AnneElliott · 26/06/2016 14:31

Voted leave and would do so again.

Sallystyle · 26/06/2016 14:35

Remain and still would vote remain.

thebestfurchinchilla · 26/06/2016 14:35

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36634407

Shocking tactics.

thebestfurchinchilla · 26/06/2016 14:37

For some people It seems fairness and democracy is only fair if it goes their way!

InShockReally · 26/06/2016 14:38

Yes, I wondered about non-uk signatures best and how they'd validate signatures. It stands to reason that SOME will be UK citizens abroad on business or holiday or whatever. But how many and how they can identify that, I don't know. Presumably some address lookup software?

InShockReally · 26/06/2016 14:39

"Democracy" isn't really democracy or fair if it's based on lies though best. It can be manipulated like any other political mechanism.

thebestfurchinchilla · 26/06/2016 14:40

inshock I made up my own mind which way to vote as did you. I did my own research. i wasn't swayed by sound bites on either side. I have always wanted to leave, the campaign was wasted on me.

BarmySmarmy · 26/06/2016 14:41

remain-remain.

And onwards remaining until there is a sensible exit plan that ensures continuing investment (£160bn pa) in our research universities, replacement investment in Wales, Cornwall, and other economically straggling communities and areas (billions and billions), and demonstrates what trade and industry economy can support us, and how, as a single nation in a local economy. And how that new economy will benefit those left at the wrong end of an increasingly polarised spectrum of wealth and opportunity.

No one has told me that yet.

InShockReally · 26/06/2016 14:43

I appreciate that best, but the campaign wasn't wasted on others was it? Some people fell for it hook, line and sinker.

There's a reason they campaigned so hard and looked a bit baffled when they'd won.

vulgarbunting · 26/06/2016 14:44

I hate this question. As if I didn't do my own, detailed research. And spend hours genuinely agonising about what the right way to vote was. It was an important question to get right. Not one taken lightly. Why would I change now?!

thebestfurchinchilla · 26/06/2016 14:45

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/britain-would-do-okay-outside-the-european-union-david-cameron-says-a6727031.html

My only concern is that Cameron allowed this vote and did not prepare for a leave outcome. I expected him to stay on as PM given his words in article above.

MissDuke · 26/06/2016 14:47

I voted remain and would do so again.

However I will not sign the petition to repeat the referendum as it makes a mockery of the whole democratic process of running a referendum, and would be a waste of the huge amount of money needed to run a referendum. There is no way of known the result would be any different.

joeythenutter · 26/06/2016 14:50

Leave and would vote leave again. Just because some can't cope with the result. People had weeks and weeks to make up their minds. Get over it remainers.