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To think that Boris didn't actually want Brexit to happen

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hownottofuckup · 25/06/2016 15:04

And that something else was afoot entirely?
Possibly with David's support, or knowledge at least.
There's been quite a bit about the divide between him and his family (not that that means much necessarily)
His propaganda for leaving was ridiculous in the extreme (£350 million a week for the NHS?)
His reaction since the results were announced
I can't help but wonder if he seriously misjudged the voting populace and this was never his intention at all. More a tactical move with a view to securing something else entirely, purely for his own personal gain.
You could never really accuse Boris of being in touch with the 'common people' after all.

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SapphireStrange · 25/06/2016 19:10

truevoice, what I was responding to was your post 'The Guardian have written he is "unfit to be prime minister"? Quelle surprise.', which seems very much to be suggesting that the Guardian itself wrote the article casting aspersions on Johnson's character, from a position of left-wing bias.

I wasn't trying to debate whether or not Johnson has principle.

rookiemere · 25/06/2016 19:15

I do believe that Farage was doing his thing with conviction and sincerity - a pity his thing will destroy what he allegedly was seeking to do i.e. stand up for the common man.

I do not believe that of Johnson. If he truly believed it was the right thing to do, where is he now? He should be out there talking, telling people how we aren't screwed and detailing financially how Britain will stand strong on it's own. He isn't, because he can't. I'd like to think he's spending the weekend scrambling round his EU chums trying to connive something that looks like we're going but not really, but he's probably working out instead how to pass the blame on to someone else.

IAmTheWhoreOfBabylon · 25/06/2016 19:17

Surprise, the leave side don't have a plan and it appears there is nobody with the skills to negotiate
They are very quiet
Did the expect the stay side to negotiate a smooth exit

truevoice · 25/06/2016 19:18

Johnson was a bit of a johhny-come-lately, but I still respect him for that. Better late than never. Farage is out in the wilderness, despite his 25 year project coming to fruition. Sometimes we have to accept reality.

truevoice · 25/06/2016 19:20

The Leave side are dealing with the unknown, not horse-trading in the now long-established wine-and-dine Brussels bureacracy. The unknown is never easy. But at least its free.

EmilyAlice · 25/06/2016 19:21

Another interesting view here:
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/25/boris-johnson-michael-gove-eu-liars

ElspethFlashman · 25/06/2016 19:23

In case people want to know what Boris spent today doing......he spent it playing cricket. Just saw it on Sky News.

MitzyLeFrouf · 25/06/2016 19:24

The Leave side are floundering fools who are probably working their exit plans out on the back of Farage's fag packet.

todayitstarts · 25/06/2016 19:25

In his book about Churchill, Boris wrote extensively about how EU had preserved the peace in Europe since end WW2

So we will know who to blame when that ends

SapphireStrange · 25/06/2016 19:25

In case people want to know what Boris spent today doing......he spent it playing cricket. Just saw it on Sky News.

Jolly good. I feel we're in safe and caring hands now. Hmm

rookiemere · 25/06/2016 19:26

Oh jesus wept Elspeth. We are doomed then unless we can get another general election on the cards.

Globetrotter100 · 25/06/2016 19:30

It's like he's turned the breakdown of my beloved UK into a cheap sitcom Sad

TSSDNCOP · 25/06/2016 19:33

Fucking cricket!?!?!?!

Is that the smell of smoke and a violin I can hear.

Who was it saying we a "free"? Fair enough you think that but don't you also think these twats should pony up and get a plan together. It's not like this wasn't a possibility in a two question vote. Someone, somewhere must have at least mused on the question "what if...?"

truevoice · 25/06/2016 19:33

No politics on MN. Just hand-wringing nonsense about "sitcoms" that makes no sense though I guess there will be always naysayers about anything and everything with nothing positive to project. I honestly thought Boris Johnson's speech was as sincere and gracious and hoped for in terms of unity as anything we could have hoped.

truevoice · 25/06/2016 19:34

crickets ok. better than swearing nonsensically on MN as a "response" I would say.

BurnTheBlackSuit · 25/06/2016 19:35

We're not in Boris's hands though.

David Cameron is the Prime Minister. We're in his hands.

Tollygunge · 25/06/2016 19:38

I also think the same about Gove. Yesterday morning he looked like he was on a comedown from a night on MDMA and had just realised he had smashed up his house while tripping.

Literally the only funny thing to come out of this. Hilarious description

MitzyLeFrouf · 25/06/2016 19:39

truevoice to be honest you're not really contributing much yourself beyond your pash on Boris.

BlunderWomansCat · 25/06/2016 19:40

Tolly your post gave me a good laugh Grin

TSSDNCOP · 25/06/2016 19:45

Sorry true but jeepers didn't quite fit my particular mood this particular evening.

Thymeout · 25/06/2016 19:46

The only principle Boris believes in is his inalienable right to run the country.

And no, he isn't that intelligent. He was a precocious schoolboy who won a scholarship to Eton. That's a big deal. They live in a special house. He's got a quick, facile brain, but no depth and gets easily bored so,
as he says himself, he's not a 'details man'. Since then, he's been coasting, putting on the occasional spurt to pass an exam.

It's like the hare and the tortoise. Cameron didn't get a scholarship to Eton but kept his head down at Oxford and, I think, ended up with a better degree. Boris spent his time showing off at the Oxford Union, becoming President by lying to the Lib Dems to get their support.

Then Cameron walks into a job in Central Office, through family connections, while Boris plays around with journalism, until he's sacked for making up quotes.

He was a v lack lustre MP and was again sacked, by Michael Howard from the shadow cabinet for lying about his affair.

He always regarded being Mayor of London as a stepping stone to something better. He was a lousy mayor, delegating all the hard work to his deputy, while focussing on photo-ops. He has NO experience of negotiating because he always refused to meet the unions re TFL and tube strikes etc.

Sadly, I'm afraid that 'good old Boris' might v well appeal to disenchanted Labour voters in the old Labour heartlands. Tho' perhaps not in Liverpool.

TSSDNCOP · 25/06/2016 19:48

You're right Burn. As others have said, we are negotiating already from a weak position. We are also doing it with a lame duck leader.

It can only go well can't it?

SapphireStrange · 25/06/2016 19:50

crickets ok. better than swearing nonsensically on MN as a "response" I would say.

We can only do things like talk on forums, and have no obligation to do anything further. Johnson, being one of the major Leave campaigners, arguably has both more power and more responsibility than us.

truevoice · 25/06/2016 19:51

The thread is about Boris, and I am tryna respond politically Mitzy. If you wanna make me look like an airhead moron IMO thats your inability to respond politically. The usual MN shame, insults, blah de blah

MitzyLeFrouf · 25/06/2016 19:53

You might want to re-read your posts in that case. You're not really saying anything beyond 'Boris, great guy'.

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