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I regret the way I voted.

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lulucappuccino · 24/06/2016 23:58

After a long day reading Facebook (didn't announce on there that I'd voted out), colleagues talking and family (who do know how I voted) complaining, I really wish I'd voted to remain.

I read a few bullet point articles and felt swayed by the amount of money were were paying to the EU. But I feel as though I'd partly not researched enough and also believed the hype.

Seeing the pound falling and friends worried for their jobs etc, I feel as though I've done something really bad. In fact, I'm sure I have.

Does anyone else regret the way they voted, whichever way that was?

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simiisme · 26/06/2016 18:06

You sound like a lovely, caring person - don't beat yourself up about it. Leave voters were lied to; most voted in good faith.
I voted remain and I'm desperately worried about what will happen now, to the extent that we're trying to plan to emigrate. We're not well off and it will be challenging. But the only 'Leavers' I blame are the nasty, racist crew - doesn't sound like you at all xx

kazlau · 26/06/2016 18:07

I don't think there's any point in regrets. Spilled milk and all that. The government should never have had a referendum. The average person couldn't understand the politics and economics of either vote. Now we have to work with what's left. 20 months ago up here in Scotland the parliament put voters in the same position with the independence referendum. Not enough information and a lot of scaremongering. One things for sure - things are going to change but for the better or the worse. Who knows. In the short term it's an economic disaster but equilibrium will return at some point.

SallyAnne7300 · 26/06/2016 18:07

I am aware that the motivations of this vote for some people were different. I accept that they were for some racially motivated and for some a 'protest' vote against the establishment.

I had a few predictions: Cameron would resign, Osbourne would resign, Scotland would want independence and Corbyn would be finished. I also predicted a massive crash in the markets and the value of sterling would plummet.

I was surprised that market volatility wasn't worse and infact the FTSE closed slightly higher than it was the previous week but I expect a volatile market for some time I worked in the financial markets for 20 yrs - this is expected - financial markets react like this frequently in time of uncertainty (actually for the first time ever wished I was back advising again as these times were the best times for a financial adviser).

I had underestimated the impact on N. Ireland tbh and that does have personal concerns as my entire family live in Ireland.

However I do believe given the research I have done that ultimately we will better of and become a more globalised nation as a result. EU membership, for me created some issues around that.

Trade deals with non EU countries were restrictive under EU and this meant that trade with emerging markets and other world markets were cumbersome and terms were more favourable towards EU countries over other nations. As a predominantly services export nation and a huge import nation as we are I felt that this wasn't a benefit for us.

I also favour an inclusive and controlled immigration policy. EU migrants are treated differently than non EU migrants under the EU stipulations of free movement. I want an inclusive system where we welcome all migrants on an equal basis and controlled to meet the demands of the country. This means attracting workers based on skill set and adjusted to suit changing needs. This would also come with caveats to ease pressure on public services but essentially I welcome immigration and not closed borders or mass deportation - infact in my mind we will possibly see more immigration but it will targeted and planned and managed properly.

Both the leave campaign and the remain campaign were managed appallingly in my view. Lies, smear and fear. Unhelpful to the electorate and misleading on both sides

There are a couple of other reasons but this would be an excruciatingly long post if I mentioned them all....

However, the final blow for me and possibly the thing that swayed my vote was that David Cameron, always during his premiership spoke negatively about EU and it's need to reform, yet when he was tasked to negotiate terms (weak at best) he was unable to secure anything remotely like what we needed. He infact he negotiated a 'brake' in immigration to ease the 'problem' which actually would've had no impact whatsoever. I felt that this was a clear indication that EU wasn't really open to reform.

We are still a strong economy and we contribute billions to the EU economy in particular Germany. I feel confident that we will secure reasonable trade deals with them following Brexit - it would be economic suicide for them if not - being an 'export' nation works well for us in this instance - USA, Canada have stated publicly that they still will negotiate trade with us and recognise our contribution to their respective economies.

I am not concerned in the long term and optimistic about the future. I don't see this as us isolating ourselves but by extracting ourselves from a system that was not helping us towards becoming globalised and actually EU felt like an inward option rather than an outward option - if that makes sense.

There is much to do notwithstanding rebuilding our government but we need to look long and hard and our country and what it has become. I have never experienced so much hate and venom as I have this past week and this saddens me. Humanity is all but gone.

We need to repair our fragmented nation by pulling together and being unified. Had the vote gone the other way I would've just got on with it as I have when every other vote I have had hasn't gone my way and I have felt deeply the implications of different governments.

This isn't a time for name calling or finger pointing or looking for blame. The blame firmly lays at the door of our governments past and present who have consistently and catastrophically failed the British people who have become so disconnected they have allowed the likes of Farage to manipulate and infiltrate the masses. They have failed to invest in public services and they have failed to positively convey the benefits of immigration.

This country was built on immigration. We have welcomed immigrants to Britain for 100's of years. I am proud of that heritage and I want it to continue. The government have allowed immigration to be used as a scapegoat for their own failures and it has led to this.

I didn't ask for this referendum the issue of EU had never been a deciding point for me in any election. But when asked to make a decision I have to make a decision and weigh up the pros and cons and try and extrapolate from the plethora of facts/figures at my disposal.

I hope we can all move forward now and work towards creating a better future and bring back humanity :-) I am confident we can achieve this out of EU. I don't regret my vote.

mumoseven · 26/06/2016 18:07

I voted remain. I am furious at people who couldn't decide what to do and then went and voted out. Ffs don't you remember what your mum told you to do if you got lost? Stay where you are, don't wander off or you'll get more lost.

serendipityblue19 · 26/06/2016 18:08

I voted out and I have no regrets. I'm middle class, university educated, descended from immigrants from Poland, Spain and Ireland, and am fortunate to be insulated from the impact of unrestricted migration. Private school for LO and Bupa to sidestep those pesky NHS queues. However I strongly believe in our democracy and unelected, unaccountable, extravagant EU bureacrats make me angry. With unlimited cheap labour, the country and big business has got fat at the expense of those who can't pay to bypass NHS queues or access to better schools and that's simply not fair. So I may be poorer, my house might go down in value (giving first time buyers a chance) and, oh no, foreign holidays may cost more. But I stand 100% behind my vote and genuinely believe it will ultimately be better for most people.

Fif · 26/06/2016 18:09

The op shouldn't be the focus of Remainers contempt and vitriol. In our view she made a mistake, but imho, so did 52% of those who voted. She shouldn't be MN Remainers whipping boy.

Chloebw · 26/06/2016 18:09

I'm proud how my country stood up for themselves. Gutted we get no say though simply because we are a smaller nation. It's like having an older brother who is bigger and louder so we don't get a voice. Absolutely embrassed and devisated we are leaving. The repacussions for our children! I work in the business sector and saw exactly how devisating it would be from the start! Even those worried about immigration the day after it was announced the tories have said there will be no caps in the foreseeable future. And that awful facist Farage has admitted already there won't be £350 million extra a week going too the NHS. Compelte joke! Proves people are like sheep. They follow anything they are told!

Kimononono · 26/06/2016 18:10

Oh good grief!!

No I do not regret my decision. No one I know regrets their decision either. It's only news papers and anonymous posters that know or are regretting their vote.

This is getting absurd.

maxandmoo · 26/06/2016 18:11

Bloody well said!!!

PastoralCare · 26/06/2016 18:13

and the brexit have no plan...

news.sky.com/video/1717859/islam-there-is-no-brexit-plan

except perhaps to renegotiate so that everything stay the same.

Yarboosucks · 26/06/2016 18:14

I wish I had not read this thread…. As for the "no point crying over spilt milk" comment. It is our fucking future and that of our children, it is the economy, it is our role in the world… That is not spilt milk! Contempt…. Get some more contempt! Cry, I did when I saw the result, when I saw the pound drop, when I saw the FTSE. If by some miracle your kids are smarter than you, you have robbed them of so much opportunity…. Because the Sun told you what to do. Ask someone in Liverpool how the Sun makes things up. You have destroyed the value of our democracy. Gaaaaaaaaa! Weep for the failure

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trufflehunterthebadger · 26/06/2016 18:15

I voted remain. I didn't feel I had enough reliable, neutral information about the repercussions to vote leave. And now I'm glad I voted remain, I just wish more others had accepted that they did not have enough political knowledge to make sure a momentous choice.

I feel angry that David Cameron left the future of our country down to people whipped up into jingoistic nationalism by the tabloids and far right bigots. I am very worried for the future and am pinning my hopes on some sort of last minute U turn.

CocktailQueen · 26/06/2016 18:15

Floey - I don't regret how I voted, but as I met with a CEO on Friday who was going to sack 500 people after our meeting I very much regret how you voted.

If we haven't even made any moves to move out of Europe or invoke Article 50, why on earth are people sacking 500 people?? What's the justification for that? Surely you don't just wind up a business on the strength of what might happen??

Blueflowers2011 · 26/06/2016 18:16

I respect you are admitting you were wrong actually but what's done is done.

If and when it all falls apart and although it will affect me too, I will seriously laugh at everyone's dire situation who I know voted Leave. The UK has gone back years.

I feel absolutely livid about this and all the Leave voters reasons for voting. I am British born and bred but immigration not ever enter my thoughts - ever. It's what makes GB great, not the Brits standing here with their union jack flags singing rule bloody brittania.

The IQ of the country at it's very best. Bravo.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 26/06/2016 18:18

Thanks for being so honest OP - I don't think we will leave on the basis of this referendum - what a Fucking wake up call though !

ArchibaldsDaddy · 26/06/2016 18:18

I'm going to be blunt. You are quite right to be ashamed of yourself.

You have closed the opportunity of all our children to work freely in any of 27 other countries and dented their chances in a global employment market against their European peers.

Every job lost, every benefit lost, every injustice suffered, every £ we lose out of the economy is your fault...and that of people like you.

You were trusted with a monumentous decision, which you took without due care and attention and now the rest of us have to suffer.

I hope you have serious trouble looking at yourself in the mirror.

StrictlyMumDancing · 26/06/2016 18:18

cocktail that is often how business works. And funding streams. They're often based of speculative money sources and confidence. Even if nothing has changed except a lack of confidence and a possibility people have lost business and funding already. Some may barely have been afloat before this and it's the proverbial straw

trufflehunterthebadger · 26/06/2016 18:20

And while I fervently hope that we will be able to rebuild ourselves as a major exporter on the world stage who is it that mans factories, farms etc ? Oh yes, cheap Eastern European labour. The service industry will fall apart without European labour - I worked in hospitality for over 2 decades - and the vast majority of food service, housekeeping and other staff were Euro mainlanders. Hardly any English people - and I must have worked with thousands of people. One of our friends runs a very nice restaurant, was advertising two posts for a sommelier and a restaurant deputy manager. Posh restaurant, good wages, set within a luxury hotel. Not one British person applied

Leefr200 · 26/06/2016 18:20

About time ppl who say I regret my vote grow up! I voted out and it's best for the country long term! What hasn't helped is David Cameron quitting and bailing on the country

Onedaftmonkey · 26/06/2016 18:21

Stop bloody downing on the leavers. So they made a crazy ass choice. Cameron was a total twunt to even say yeah let's have a referendum. But being cunts to people for bad choices is just as prejudiced as those who voted out because of racist views. we're all as bad as each other. It's early days. The government still have the power to say actually fuck off brexit were staying (if they had the balls)

trufflehunterthebadger · 26/06/2016 18:21

And that was 2 months ago

betsybb · 26/06/2016 18:22

As those of us who voted Remain watch the distaster that is Brexit unfold around us, you are very brave to admit this. I can only salute that. I have heard it time and again now and feel furious that people took on such a serious vote with seemingly so little consideration for the consequences. But then again, you were truly hoodwinked by a deeply dishonest campaign...

That said, I can not agree with the comment that you should simply keep quiet. If you are truly regretful, you need to make this public. You have made a good start here. The vote was a close one, and I have now heard too many people express the same senitiment as you. The sense of regret of many Out voters is clear. SO - if you really now want to make amends, find others who feel the same as you, come together and SPEAK OUT! Go public, start a petition, go to the media and get a strong message to the Government that you are numerous and that you regret your decision, but did not understand the real consequences of an out vote. Demand a reconsideration. It's a long shot, but the vote was close. The margins were not huge. If you could find 500k people who felt the same, this could make a real difference.

You will not be popular initially with those who had the sense not to risk the future of our country (and indeed that of the rest of Europe) on an ill-considered referendum - but your bravery in taking a real stand and trying to make real amends would win their respect, and possibly save our country from a very bleak future ahead.

sleeponeday · 26/06/2016 18:22

If the Remain campaign had won they wouldn't even speak of another referendum. Absolute BULLSHIT.

The petition was started by a Leave voter a month ago, because he was certain Leave would lose and wanted to try to prevent that being binding. It was a Leave created thing - if democracy took the vote in one direction, it's taken the petition in another.

Leave voters haven't accepted decades of EU membership and negotiation and legally binding treaties, on the part of a democratically elected government. Yet suddenly those who wish for Remain should shut up and sit down and just allow the less than 2% vote to determine the country's future in perpetuity? How exactly is trying to silence those who disagree with you the pinnacle of democracy?

SallyAnne7300 · 26/06/2016 18:24

I have a plan and would be happy to outline this with interested parties in Westminster - there were many plans in the research I did. Can't think why they don't have access to the same peer reviewed journal articles on European Union and trade agreements