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Nigel Farage-staying in the EU risks more sex attacks

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BritBrit · 05/06/2016 19:50

Nigel Farage says the sex attacks we have had across Europe by immigrants most notably in Cologne could happen in the UK.

Does he have a point? The EU have no idea who they have let into Europe or where they are. We have also had illegal immigrants sneaking into the UK we don't keep track of. More importantly other EU nations are able to issue their own passports which would give immigrants the right to enter the UK if we are in the EU, what power do we have to control the passport office of other EU nations?

news.sky.com/story/1707208/farage-staying-in-eu-risks-more-sex-attacks

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unexpsoc · 08/06/2016 12:51

"Do the carehomes/agencies check the histories of each worker, do all countries have a similar system to the DBS one, are they all reliable?"

It's a good question. It also assumes DBS is a safe system (it isn't) and a reliable indicator of future actions. I actually think better sharing of information between countries on crime and criminality is a really good idea. Maybe, I don't know, some sort of treaty organisation that moves us towards integration of intelligence and crime information. If only we could devise something like that, eh?

Mooingcow · 08/06/2016 17:39

I worked in the vetting industry when Blair first threw open the doors to we still don't know how many EU immigrants a decade or so ago.

One of the problems we had in checking criminal backgrounds was that some countries categorised crimes quite differently to us. So someone who had raped might, in their home country, have a record for 'sexual misdemeanour' for example.

The other issue then was that the Stasi and other police had destroyed many records so in many cases it was impossible to verify a person's identity.

The PP who made a facile comment about 'people who look different' should try living under a theocracy that classes women as chattels (and in the case of KSA, doesn't even record their births and deaths) and then report back on how that culture is indifferent to the mass sexual assault of women who are out uncovered and in men's space.

Or watch this. It's a cultural issue, however hard you might try and whitewash it a racism so that your western liberal tendencies remain unbruised.

MrsBlackthorn · 08/06/2016 17:57

Is the money to run a full criminal background check in every single person coming into the country - at a cost of tens to hundreds of pounds per visitor - going to come from the £350 it's proven we don't send to the EU too?

Mooingcow · 08/06/2016 18:01

Good question. In my case, it was the company who wanted to employ them who paid.

My point was rather that it is very difficult at the best of times, to ascertain someone's criminal record or lack of.

RosesareSublime · 08/06/2016 18:06

We can prevent any EU national who is a threat to public policy, public health or public security from staying in the UK. that is the law

Am sure this has already been challenged but we let in 50 people with dubious and dangerous backgrounds, and last night when challenged on why we had let them in the first place, Cameron wouldn't/couldnt ansa why.

RosesareSublime · 08/06/2016 18:15

Covering the crimes up won't achieve this and attackers will think they can get away with it

well they already have. Got away with and dissapeared.

Funny that Kitty because with 3 out of every 4 new jobs going to migrants, I'd say being in the EU is crushing job prospects

Yes my DC have to compete for jobs against the whole EU workplace now Sad, what a great future.

RosesareSublime · 08/06/2016 18:28

nealry interesting list and all the countries in the EU whose citizens can move here are on the same page are they with regards to all those things?

They have campaigns like we do and teach equality and back it up in the law? So when their citizens come here they fit easily in with our laws?

I mean It was a massive surprise to me, that the age of consent is lower in Germany and that groping is not a crime and also the way they process sex assault claims is frankly, backward. And yet Germany is seen as the progressive power house of Europe?

The point being we cannot all enjoy your list because not every country is on the same page. We are all at very different stages.

RosesareSublime · 08/06/2016 18:36

Do we want to be shackled LONG TERM to the slowest growing economy on the planet....it's like running with a parachute on. Why not enjoy being nimble, as the 5th largest economy in the world, and doing business with economies that are growing all over the WORLD?. JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs want to stay shackled - wonder why, it's easy for them to lobby Brussels and get the "regulatory regime" that works for them...and we all know how that ended

Running with parachute on, love it.

RosesareSublime · 08/06/2016 19:44

shitchef its a no brainer.

But people do not want to hear about the open borders of guns, sex trafficking, and criminal gangs.

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