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Ethical dilemmas

Would you report someone for working a second job cash in hand

207 replies

dammit88 · 28/03/2026 19:05

…. And not paying tax? Earning around £100-200 extra per week on top of their normal pays job.

has anyone ever done this? Did anything happen?

OP posts:
Badbadbunny · 29/03/2026 13:04

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/measuring-tax-gaps/1-tax-gaps-summary

  • the tax gap from small businesses is the largest component of the tax gap by customer group at a 60% share in 2023 to 2024; the tax gap from wealthy makes up the lowest proportion of the tax gap at 5% in 2023 to 2024

1. Tax gaps: Summary

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/measuring-tax-gaps/1-tax-gaps-summary

MrsColinRobinson · 29/03/2026 13:52

Badbadbunny · 29/03/2026 13:04

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/measuring-tax-gaps/1-tax-gaps-summary

  • the tax gap from small businesses is the largest component of the tax gap by customer group at a 60% share in 2023 to 2024; the tax gap from wealthy makes up the lowest proportion of the tax gap at 5% in 2023 to 2024

Well done.

It makes no difference to my view that in this particular type of situation, I would neither grass nor judge someone trying to get by. I'm certainly not alone in my stance.

Q2C4 · 29/03/2026 15:38

ClaredeBear · 29/03/2026 11:27

You’re better off focusing on hyper energies on the real problem, like massive corporations.

Please could you provide some data to back this up? The official Tax Gap data published by the government doesn’t.

Q2C4 · 29/03/2026 15:51

MrsColinRobinson · 29/03/2026 13:52

Well done.

It makes no difference to my view that in this particular type of situation, I would neither grass nor judge someone trying to get by. I'm certainly not alone in my stance.

If evidence wasn’t going to change you view, what was the rationale in asking for it?

MrsColinRobinson · 29/03/2026 15:53

Q2C4 · 29/03/2026 15:51

If evidence wasn’t going to change you view, what was the rationale in asking for it?

To see what was triggering the claim. It's my perogative how I chose to use the information.

Pickledonion1999 · 29/03/2026 15:59

Badbadbunny · 28/03/2026 20:06

Yes, I would and I have. The black economy costs the country tens of billions of pounds in lost tax revenue and benefit fraud every year, not to mention child maintenance avoidance.

This. I'm genuinely shocked at the vast majority on here turning a blind eye although I had a friends husband who was doing this and didn't report.
£800 additional income is £200 lost in tax. If thousands and thousands are doing this yes that's a lot of lost revenue.

Greenwitchart · 29/03/2026 16:01

Badbadbunny · 29/03/2026 12:19

Tax evasion and benefit fraud in the black economy is far higher than tax avoidance by big companies and billionaires. It's a numbers game. Millions of people fiddling small amounts is a bigger number than a small number of corporations/people fiddling big amounts.

Untrue.

Janesput · 29/03/2026 16:02

No. I'd conflicting admire them for working so hard and judge them for not paying tax, but I wouldn't report.

Badbadbunny · 29/03/2026 16:02

Janesput · 29/03/2026 16:02

No. I'd conflicting admire them for working so hard and judge them for not paying tax, but I wouldn't report.

What about the vast majority who work hard and DO pay tax? Why should some be exempt when most pay what's due??

hereforthelolz · 29/03/2026 16:06

Absolutely not. Good luck to them.

MrsColinRobinson · 29/03/2026 16:25

Badbadbunny · 29/03/2026 13:04

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/measuring-tax-gaps/1-tax-gaps-summary

  • the tax gap from small businesses is the largest component of the tax gap by customer group at a 60% share in 2023 to 2024; the tax gap from wealthy makes up the lowest proportion of the tax gap at 5% in 2023 to 2024

From your own data, which of course would not include any of the big corporations who register in a tax haven.

"the largest component of the tax gap by tax type is the Corporation Tax gap at a 40% share, followed by the Income tax, National Insurance contributions and Capital Gains Tax gap with a 31% share and the VAT gap with a 19% share of the overall tax gap"

This does not support your claim.

Q2C4 · 29/03/2026 16:37

MrsColinRobinson · 29/03/2026 15:53

To see what was triggering the claim. It's my perogative how I chose to use the information.

What evidence would it take to change you view?

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 29/03/2026 16:39

Only if I really hated them and wanted revenge

MrsColinRobinson · 29/03/2026 16:42

Q2C4 · 29/03/2026 16:37

What evidence would it take to change you view?

You seem to be of the misunderstanding that I should change my view. I've been crystal clear that in these circumstances I would not judge a person or report them. Hth

Ovaryinatwist · 29/03/2026 16:44

No but I would not know if they payed tax or evaded tax, unless they told me.

If they are going around telling people then maybe they will get caught.

ElectricLegs · 29/03/2026 17:01

The more tax we pay the more money goes into the system. Just look at the UK Parliament to see how it spends money on itself. MPs of all stripes get a good salary, the chance of jobs on the side, usually in a talking-shop role or purely for the employer to get some access/influence. There are countless spads recruited. The Commons and presumably the Lords has discounted food in their restaurants. This is for those in the top 10% of earners. In my time in the public sector our discounted food included 5p off a cup of tea. The parliamentarians also have bars at work, presumably also discounted. I have worked in places where just having alcohol on the premises was a sacking offence. Expenses for everything that they can squeeze out of the system, including on second homes, which they seem to have a habit of flipping, or that wonderful wheeze of owning a house in London and renting it out for profit whilst renting another house at taxpayers expense. The Government should look at themselves before sticking their hand out to the populace for more money.

We could be a peaceful nation, but we do love joining in wars of choice for years on end, which cost billions, and kill many of our forces personnel.

The waste in the public sector can be enormous. I worked in one of the major public sector organisations for many years and was horrified at the waste, fighting for changes to save money, The progress was slow and demoralising.

Q2C4 · 29/03/2026 17:08

Foodylicious · 28/03/2026 19:14

No, not in these circumstances.
2nd job cash in hand they offen charge less.
So if they are charging £100 instead of £120, nobody loses really.

Except the tax payer - and all those not engaging in illegal business practices.

Q2C4 · 29/03/2026 17:09

MrsColinRobinson · 29/03/2026 16:42

You seem to be of the misunderstanding that I should change my view. I've been crystal clear that in these circumstances I would not judge a person or report them. Hth

So if nothing could change your mind, why ask for evidence?

MrsColinRobinson · 29/03/2026 17:18

Q2C4 · 29/03/2026 17:09

So if nothing could change your mind, why ask for evidence?

I've already answered you. Do keep up

whattheysay · 29/03/2026 17:24

No. Seriously, mind your own business

Q2C4 · 29/03/2026 17:28

MrsColinRobinson · 29/03/2026 17:18

I've already answered you. Do keep up

It appears you could have a sworn statement from the CEO of HMRC telling you which taxpayers form the majority of the tax gap and you still wouldn’t change your view.

The share of the tax gap attributed to small businesses has increased over the last 5 years, from 48% of the overall tax gap in 2019 to 2020 to 60% in 2023 to 2024.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/measuring-tax-gaps/1-tax-gaps-summary#tax-gap-by-customer-group

NotMajorTom · 29/03/2026 17:28

Interesting

post that it’s a man and cash helps avoid cms. See the answers change

Saturdaynight1 · 29/03/2026 17:28

No way. Mind your own business.

MajesticWhine · 29/03/2026 17:30

ElectricLegs · 29/03/2026 17:01

The more tax we pay the more money goes into the system. Just look at the UK Parliament to see how it spends money on itself. MPs of all stripes get a good salary, the chance of jobs on the side, usually in a talking-shop role or purely for the employer to get some access/influence. There are countless spads recruited. The Commons and presumably the Lords has discounted food in their restaurants. This is for those in the top 10% of earners. In my time in the public sector our discounted food included 5p off a cup of tea. The parliamentarians also have bars at work, presumably also discounted. I have worked in places where just having alcohol on the premises was a sacking offence. Expenses for everything that they can squeeze out of the system, including on second homes, which they seem to have a habit of flipping, or that wonderful wheeze of owning a house in London and renting it out for profit whilst renting another house at taxpayers expense. The Government should look at themselves before sticking their hand out to the populace for more money.

We could be a peaceful nation, but we do love joining in wars of choice for years on end, which cost billions, and kill many of our forces personnel.

The waste in the public sector can be enormous. I worked in one of the major public sector organisations for many years and was horrified at the waste, fighting for changes to save money, The progress was slow and demoralising.

Are you actually saying that it’s ok to dodge tax because the government wastes money?
Is It ok for me to dodge tax on my additional earnings please? How much is ok with you?

workroundabout · 29/03/2026 17:30

I do the odd bit of babysitting in the run up to Xmas and as hoc as my job isn’t massively well paid and I live in an expensive part of the world. Never crossed my mind that someone would report me how sad/petty if they did.