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Elderly parents

FIL started being unkind to DGC

95 replies

Starrydream · 07/01/2024 10:30

This is a bit long, sorry.

This is about my FIL(86) and my DS(8), so his DGC. FIL does fairly well for his age although he has started to slow down a lot. Nothing significant, just age-related decline with some forgetfulness and getting muddled. MIL died years ago.

FIL has two DGC - the other DGC(7) by SIL. FIL has started being unkind to my DS but not the other DGC and I don’t know whether to ignore it, politely call him out on it etc.. DH gets annoyed but doesn’t say anything and says to ignore him.

Examples:
DS was sitting on the sofa next to me watching tv recently when FIL suddenly started almost shouting at DS “you need to grow up; you’re an adult now and you need to act your age. You’ve been stuck in this stage for two years now and you need to stop it and grow up”. Then he said “all you ever do when you come around here is break thing’s, smash them and it’s not acceptable. You need to grow up.”
He repeated the above two statement another two times. I was wtf and too shocked to speak. DH was in another room watching the football and didn’t hear. DS later said he had no idea what grandad was talking about but said he sensed he was being told off.

For context - we have absolutely no idea what FIL is on about. DS has NEVER broken or damaged anything, and the growing up comments I think stem from when DS was about 6 he had a big tantrum when we were leaving (out of character) and FIL still brings it up nearly 3 years later.

Secondly, DS won the end of year Best Progress prize for his y3 class last July. We were so proud as he has struggled with possible dyslexia so DS took the certificate to show his DGF the next day and he looked at it and then said to me “well that’s surprising given how he is” and he sat down and picked up the tv remote. DS looked so sad at his DGF response and later cried when we left.

Yesterday we visited and DS did his times tables homework while we were there. FIL started on at him that if doesn’t do his homework and try hard then his younger cousin will overtake him and be better than him at school, especially now that his cousin is at an independent school. He said it several times. DS later cried when we were at home.

We visit every week and FIL usually starts telling DS when we go to leave that he is an adult now (at 8!) and he needs to behave himself and not have a tantrum (all because of one tantrum he was 6).

I am getting really irritated and annoyed with FIL but I don’t know if I am overthinking it, but DS gets upset at all these comments as he’s a sensitive child. I’ve said FIL is getting old and sometimes they say things they don’t mean but I’m also annoyed with DH for not politely telling his DF to stop with these comments. I’m at the point where I really don’t like FIL anymore.

DNephew has also recently moved to an independent school so FIL now tells DH and I all about nephews ‘superior education’ and that DNephew will likely overtake DS now academically even though he’s a year younger.

OP posts:
SecondUsername4me · 07/01/2024 10:32

You need to stop your ds visiting his grandfather. I'd be telling dh me and ds are no longer visiting him.

CharmedCult · 07/01/2024 10:33

I was going to suggest the beginnings of dementia but on reading your whole post he sounds like a nasty bastard, and if you or your DH aren’t willing to have a word with him then you should at least stop taking your DS to be in his unpleasant company.

crumblingschools · 07/01/2024 10:33

Send DH on his own. Might be an idea to get GP appointment

Cheeesus · 07/01/2024 10:35

Did you say anything at the time with those examples?

AnnaMagnani · 07/01/2024 10:38

Your FIL needs a GP appointment and a memory assessment.

Going into a room and forgetting why you went in - normal age related decline
Being muddled, forgetful and having a personality change into someone unpleasant and thinks 8 yr olds are adults - not normal

Beamur · 07/01/2024 10:39

Your DH needs to find his spine.
I would swerve visiting for a few weeks so your DH can chat to his Dad. This is unkind behaviour.
If FIL has form generally for this, then I would limit the exposure your son has to him.
If it's out of character, I would suggest that a check up would be a good idea. Behaviour changes and loss of filter in conversations could be an indicator of something cognitive.

SecondUsername4me · 07/01/2024 10:41

Even if there js something medical to explain this, keep ds away - he doesn't deserve to be the punchbag for someone else's illness. It's different if it's at an adult who can rationalise it and choose to visit and accept it, knowing its medical.

Catinknickers · 07/01/2024 10:43

My FIL was the same toward one of my DDs.

Even my MIL who I don’t have the best relationship with apologised, although DH made excuses for him. DH did eventually call him out on it when I insisted.

I explained to DD that FIL’s mind was going and he was imagining stuff and probably replaying what had been said to
him as a child.

Get your DH to stand up to him or it won’t stop. Don’t leave your DC alone with him.

Luckily we didn’t see them very often as they lived overseas. My DH put it down to ageing and FIL was eventually diagnosed with vascular dementia.

rainbowstardrops · 07/01/2024 10:44

Well he's either got dementia or similar, or he's just a nasty bastard! Why on earth haven't you or your DH pulled him up on it?!
I 100% would not allow my child to visit and be subjected to that!

bendypines · 07/01/2024 10:47

You need to put your child's welfare first. If that means keeping him away from his grandfather, so be it.

Anjea · 07/01/2024 10:48

Why on earth are you still putting your son into these situations without correcting it at the time?

Stop taking him there.

BananaSplitsss · 07/01/2024 10:52

My FIL has started to be a bit of a prick towards my eldest: telling him he’s fat ( he’s 12) repeatedly. Laughing spitefully at him and directly refusing to engage with him or play any games ( despite being a huge lover of games ). With him. I have taken it personally.
I am keeping DS away from him
and barely having any contact

MrsNandortheRelentless · 07/01/2024 10:52

So you need to protect your child and shield him from this treatment.
Dont take him any more.

I did it. It’s easy enough to do.

Onceuponaheartache · 07/01/2024 10:53

Of this change on personality came on fairly rapidly then your dh needs to get his dad assessed pdq.

What you are describing can be indicative of a stroke, dementia onset amongst other things.

In the meantime you need to safeguard your ds and not put him in a position to be constantly abused.

Step uo and protect him!

Changingplace · 07/01/2024 11:08

You/DH need to pull him on all this nonsense - don’t go with DS for a couple of weeks, send DH on his own to have a conversation about all of it.

Incredibly odd to be fixated on a child having one tantrum two years ago and none of the rest of it makes sense and it needs addressing.

Goldbar · 07/01/2024 11:13

Either it's medical-related or your FIL is a very unpleasant man, but regardless of which, your role is to protect your son. Keep him away from FIL.

Supersimkin2 · 07/01/2024 11:18

Dementia. Nasty bastard comes with it.

Explain to DS what’s going on.

Motnight · 07/01/2024 11:20

Goldbar · 07/01/2024 11:13

Either it's medical-related or your FIL is a very unpleasant man, but regardless of which, your role is to protect your son. Keep him away from FIL.

Agree with this.

binkie163 · 07/01/2024 11:25

I grew up with parents like this. I am in my 60's and I still remember the hurtful stuff yelled at me. It stays with you for life. Please protect your son and keep him away, I feel sad for him. How your husband deals with it is up to him.

FictionalCharacter · 07/01/2024 11:29

Don't ignore him. That tells your son that you don't mind his GF treating him like that.

He might have dementia or just be nasty, but whatever the reason, your son doesn't deserve to be taken there to be used as a punchbag. Protect him - stop going. He's already made the poor boy cry twice with his spite.

Your husband is in denial. Your FIL's health isn't your responsibility, and if anyone takes FIL to a doctor it should be your husband. Your only focus should be protecting your son. Make no mistake, at 8 your son is old enough to understand that his parents aren't standing up for him. My parents allowed relatives to make fun of me for their own entertainment. I didn't forgive them. The way your son is being treated is much worse than that.

MyLadyTheKingsMother · 07/01/2024 11:34

If any of the grandparents made my children cry, it would be the last time.

Why are you not protecting him op?

KnottyKnitting · 07/01/2024 11:35

Your poor little boy! He will grow up remembering this. I have strong memories of a vitriolic great grandmother. Luckily we didn't see her often but she came to stay with us for about three weeks when I was about 7. To this day I have not forgotten how she made me feel ( now in my late 50s.) I was a good little girl and there was no need for her to have relentlessly berated and insulted me. Her behaviour was nothing new- she had always been an old witch so nothing to do with dementia.

I think you need to stop the visits for now and make sure the FiL knows why. If this is a real change in personality/ concerns about memory, then he needs to see the GP and be referred to the memory clinic for assessment.

Regardless of the reason, you need to protect your son. Your DH needs to step up- I can't quite believe that he wouldn't see the damage this nasty old man must be doing to the the self esteem of your little boy.

Mothership4two · 07/01/2024 11:36

Agree with other posters that you need to keep your DS away from him for a bit and get him checked out.

Itsbeginingtolookalotlikexmas · 07/01/2024 11:38

100% stop contact

LindorDoubleChoc · 07/01/2024 11:39

For heaven's sake! Stand up for your child! Why are you waiting for your DH to say something?