holidays in shcool term time adn bringin in sweets on return

[michellemcmanus]

does anyone elses kids have to endure kids taking holidays in term time then returning wiht sweets for their class mates?

Anyway, back to the sweets....

but you didnt say that though homemamma you said you made a great big deal out of it - thats what I objected to originally (oh and the sweets)

the taking out of school I don't like and I can't grasp it whether its single mums or not.

Believe it or not I do actaully come from a family who couldn't afford a holiday some years - we spent them in the back garden and mooching around, my point is it isnt the end of the world. And when we did go we went to a cheerless cottage in the west country. Big whup.

Example- I work in travel and as an "exercise" have compared out of term hols to in term hols.

24 JUNE majorca self catering £199 pp

24 JULY majorca self catering £415pp

is it any wonder people take their children out of school???

I would not pay to go on holiday in the school holidays, we only ever go abroad for a week anyway. Also the fact that as a travel agnt i cant have holidays in the school hols anyway as its our busiest time.

The Law

The law says that parents do not have and automatic right to take their child out of school for holidays during term time.

However, in exceptional circumstances schools may authorise, in advance, a request for a period of leave of up to ten days in any year. The request for leave must come from a parent with whom the child normally resides and must be for the purpose of an annual family holiday.

If a child then stays away from school for more than ten days this must be recorded as unauthorised absence and could be quoted in a prosecution for poor attendance.

If the child is away from school for a total of four weeks or more, the school may have to take the child off roll unless there is a good reason for the continued absence, such a s illness. In these circumstances it is up to the parent to inform the school as once removed from roll, there is no guarantee that the child will regain a place at the same school.

The Decision

When deciding whether to allow term time leave, consideration is given to:

• The child?s age
• The time and duration of the leave
• The child?s record of attendance
• The child?s ability
• Previous term time leave

What you should consider

There are times during a school year when a child may experience particular problems because of term time leave such as:

• Close to exams or tests for example, Standard Attainment Test in year two, six and nine
• During GCSE, A level and other examination courses
• During the first year at a new school
• At the beginning of a new school term

If the school refuses a request for term time leave and the child is still taken out of school, this will be recorded as unauthorised absence and noted in the child?s Record of Achievement.

What has interested me about this thread is that so many people think that a holiday is not a luxury but a necessity. I always look at a holiday (as opposed to staying with friends, relatives etc) is a nice to have but something that gives if we don't have the money - we have certainly had years where we've never gone anywhere. Am I alone in this?

THEN DONT GO TO MAJORCA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

theres no need to shout at me enid, i was simply making a point about how different the prices are.

I don't like the number of people who take their children out of school for a holiday, but I honestly have no problem with those children then bringing sweets in to share with their classmates. I can't understand why anyone would object to that. It shows they are being brought up to consider others.

Oh Enid give it a rest.

dh is a teacher so clearly we have to take our holidays in holiday time if we want one! It did use to p me off when I was a teacher that my tutor group would jet off all over the place in school time and expect you to spend extra time sorting out some work for them to take with them! grrr. As for the sweets, secondary school kids don't tend to do that!

JUDGE is exactly what happens alot on here.
Dh and i both work full time but dont earn alot. We go on 2 holidays a year and both cost us around £200. We always holiday in england and usually in a cheap caravan somewhere. We would never go away otherwise and i agree with others on here that my ds and dsd learn alot when we go on holiday. they also get to relax. As a childminder i cannot take time off work during half terms etc as that is my busiest period and would mean me losing £100s of pounds in earnings. I read with my son EVERY night and also do extra carricular activities with him, he is doing very well in school, he is the 3rd youngest in the class and is keeping up no problems wiuth the oldest children. If ds ever had problems at school i would obviously reconsider taking him out unnecessarily. What about the children who are always off school ill?

I don't understand why some posters are so against holidays in term time - it's not illegal - see the linnk I just posted - why is it such a big deal ?

not shouting at you tiredemma but you did illustrate my point rather.

were those prices for a week or two weeks btw?

Maybe you can shout at me, Enid! Howabout.... I dont think us teachers get enough time off ha ha!

why? do you want to book?

one week, both self catering.

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I dont think of a holiday as a necessity. I havent been on holiday since before I had DD (I was 18 when I had DD so last holiday was last one my Mum took us on)

DP and I have never been on a night away.

homemumma I have no probs with teachers or school generally

You could go to Brittany and stay in a chalet for less than £800 a week for four people in the middle of the summer holidays (including ferry). so no need for Majorca.

Isn't that an £800 holiday not a £200 one though?

Sorry but have to pmsl at £800 for a holiday, is that supposed to be cheap then ??

we go camping and the children dont complain, they are innocent little kids without the need for 'luxuries' sunshine and material shite

Our budget is £200 and as you can't get anything abroad for a family of 5 for that then we don't look.
We usually try a last minute holiday at a camp site in cornwall or wales.

Last time we went on a cheapy weeks holiday was about 3 years ago and it was about £189 i think in late may.

Enid - you're illustrating my point. £800 for a week is totally unaffordable for me - agree totally with Bonkerz. It's not a case of 'I can't afford Mauritius but I can afford France', can't you see what I'm trying to say?

And yes a holiday is a luxury and yes UK seaside holidays are fine (in fact I prefer them, haven't been abroad for 6 years and never with kids) butI don't see why kids from families who can't afford the Disney experience should be denied the oportunity to have a decent holdiay (and yes by decent I mean a week on the beach).

IME by school age most kids are able to compute that little Johnny has been to Disneyland so why can't they. You can't expect kids of 5 to understand adult rationalisation on that one.