Would your primary school treat these threats and assaults as violence?

[Lambaandlettuce]

in your primary school is this deemed violence?

we have a just turned 10 year old child in my child’s class whose behaviour is digusting.

We have taken our eldest child out of school this week for their own safety after this pupil threatened to kill them simply because they didn’t want to play tag. We were told by a member of staff this morning the pupil was in school today despite what happened on Thursday. Staff member also said to me I should start considering formal complaints as the head will never consider excluding this child regardless of the number and escalation of incidents. Head has said today that the behaviour is communication and is being managed in line with their policy.

putting arms around neck to strangle other child
punching
saying I hate you and I’ll get you dead
ripping up school art work
bullying every day saying you are weak, you are a pussy, your are just scared of me, I’ll knock yer face off
yanking off play equipment from height and causing huge egg lump bruise on head
using threatening language in school

to staff and in class
hitting TA and pushing her resulting in injury and weeks off work
so disruptive children can’t renewer classroom and have to be taught outside
putting hands around throat of class teacher
climbing on top of windows tables and throwing scissors

And as a consequence, I would escalate your complaint. The school is failing everyone concerned and not dealing effectively with dangerous, violent behaviour.

@Walkaround You think these dc have therapeutic interventions? In your dreams. Schools are expected to accept dc have needs and the sen lobby is so strong, numerous people now think these dc cannot be excluded. The unfortunate thing is that dc get to school without support in the first place. However budgets are with schools and they have dual responsibility for Sen and keeping other dc safe. What schools must do is try various strategies before they exclude. It would be so much better if dc had a EHCP before they ever got near school. This used to be entirely possible. It’s clear some dc should not be in mainstream school. Other therapeutic classes and interventions have largely gone.

This is going back a few years but we had a similar situation all be it at younger school year. We were all politely complaining to the head, teacher etc etc… nothing changed till one day the aggressive child started on a different child who’s dad went ballistic at the head- annoying it took this but I think the head was more scared of this parent (they weren’t physically aggressive, quite a well to do family but he was not taking this kids shit) than anything else and the kid stayed but a lot more support was put in place and proper boundaries were made. So as crap as it sounds maybe see who can be the most assertive parent to keep on at the school till something changes ?

@MeetMeOnTheCorner - I think you misunderstand the difference between therapeutic interventions and “therapeutic thinking.”

@Walkaround Well therapeutic thinking is inevitably absent in most schools!

Wanted to update people. So we went to a governors complaint panel which upheld our key issues around safeguarding etc. the head is being given training and the other child still hasn’t been removed form the school. Apparently he has been offered a place at an alternative better suited place but I think (although I don’t truly know) the parents have refused the managed move. We took our children out. We trailed them at another primary 20 mins drive away. The youngest adores it and is desperate to stay (extremely social and outgoing so it’s much easier) but our eldest who is 10 (less social and has been anxious since everything that happened) and going into year 6 in September wants to return to their old school. We are so torn.

we keep getting conflicting advice from the head of the new school who is lovely, who says he will adapt and they will do everything in their power to make the transition positive , they’ve even attached the kids to do a pamphlet for them welcoming etc even after spending a few taster days there and friends and family think we need to listen to what she wants. Our eldest says they will just refuse to go to school, they want to be back with their friends and don’t care if the other child keeps attacking them in year 6. The head of our school hasn’t even reached out to us since 19th may. What do we do 😭 do we make our child unhappy or do we hopefully protect them and put them in a potentially better and safer environment for year 6