Private school pupils banned from work experience in hospitals

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“Pupils who want to be doctors 'barred' from vital work experience at NHS hospitals - because they go to private school”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15007121/amp/doctors-work-experience-NHS-hospitals-private-school.html

This will be extended to all civil service jobs.
Bridgitte Philipson is a nasty bully. What next, private school pupils to sit on certain sections on buses? I cannot wait until the next general election, this shower need a wipeout.

I think it’s great. The more in state schools the better. And if this is the push they need…..

We need more working class doctors and less privelisged ones.

So you don't think people who go to private schools should be allowed to be doctors?
Any other jobs?

I can see the theory behind this, but it has probably been badly implemented.

I would think a high percentage of drs children are privately educated. This gives a distinct advantage to them for getting work experience as it is correct its who you know, not what you know. And state school students are then unable to get work experience due to not having the same contacts. They are trying to level that field.

Obvious discrimination.
Is it legal?

ETA I’m not in the UK and my DC are not educated privately so I’ve no skin in the game.

I didn’t say that.

We need less private schools. And more working class doctors. This is the first step towards it.

They don’t HAVE to go to private schools. They could just go to a state school like everyone else.

Iys great that it’s stamping out the privelisge of private education.

Is private school a protected characteristic? No it’s not discrimination.

It’s all bollocks. The professions, including the university admissions people, will keep taking the best applicants whether they’re from private or state school backgrounds.

Work experience is the sort of thing that anxious parents fret about for their precious wannabe doctor/lawyer/accountant etc child. Recruiters don’t care about a fortnight folding towels in the local hospital.

In that way it’s yet another Labour gimmick.

I should hope that this will not stand up to legal scrutiny because it clearly discriminates and would exclude a large number of potential applicants with no way for them to get around it - they've gone to private school for years and were enrolled a long time before the Labour socialists got into power. Can't wait for Labour to get the boot at the next GE.

Still unfair imho.
I see what they’re trying to do, but that doesn’t make it right.

I have no skin in the game. We just need more good doctors. I don't care where they were educated TBH.

I don’t entirely trust the source to report this accurately but what we really need is good quality, well trained medical staff regardless of their background.

This happens in my town. Private school kids are not ‘banned’ per se, but there are hospital-based schemes that are run exclusively for state school kids who would never have the connections or confidence to think of medical careers otherwise. I think it’s rather good actually.

As much as I loathe to click on the daily fail I did in this case, and your thread title is incorrect. They are not banned from work experience.

Some trusts/hospitals are prioritising state school students for their work experience placements. That does not mean that all private school students are banned from all hospital work experience.

Did you not read the article before you posted it?

When you're used to privilege, equality feels like oppression, eh?

It's good as it will level the playing field for those who can't call in favours form family and friends to get the work experience needed.

There are plenty of ways for privately educated children to get valuable work experience in the caring or medical professions that do not involve working for a trust or hospital.

The private schools kids could do work experience at a private hospital?

Real clickbaity title.

Private school children are not banned from work experience in hospitals. They are banned for accessing certain schemes that are aimed at state school pupils.
Most likely because children at private schools probably already have their own family contacts to get work experience in hospital, or, if they don't, there will be someone they know who does, or the school will help them.

So basically it's about broadening opportunities for children who wouldn't normally have them.

Why? do you have any stats showing that privately educated students make worse doctors than state ones?

Universities seem to be very impressed with applicants who have actually worked in care homes and Domiciliary Care services. We always used to have one or two each year when I ran a care service for a charity, they were all offered places.

Nah. Nothing to do with it.

Stamping out privelidge and jobs for the boys.

Deliberately excluding good candidates seems like shooting yourself in the foot. Specially when we are short of good doctors.

It seems the thread title is actually incorrect and it's more a case of giving priority to good candidates from state schools, which seems much more reasonable, although still unfair to children who have worked extremely hard to get good grades. Pupils in private schools are not just handed good exam results.

There are also very good state schools, should those schools also be in the do not prioritise list?

Aw gawd. Bridget Bridget Bridget you bitter bitter person. Let’s just hope, for all our sakes, that Labour don’t start demanding that medical schools accept kids ‘from state schools’ 🙄, with lower grades.

I'm a doctor and the last few work experience kids I've hosted have been privately educated (children of colleagues, typically). The headline refers to formal work experience schemes, but that's not the only route in.

It always seems to be levelling down, not levelling up. What the government should be doing is bringing state schools up, not dragging private pupils down.