Private school pupils banned from work experience in hospitals

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“Pupils who want to be doctors 'barred' from vital work experience at NHS hospitals - because they go to private school”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15007121/amp/doctors-work-experience-NHS-hospitals-private-school.html

This will be extended to all civil service jobs.
Bridgitte Philipson is a nasty bully. What next, private school pupils to sit on certain sections on buses? I cannot wait until the next general election, this shower need a wipeout.

My DC were at private. All teachers were degree educated, highly intelligent, speaking BBC English. Just saying...

ETA: Critical thinking was taught from Y1.
CATS were first tested in Y4. Year average for both DCs were 121. National average 100.

Oooh a dig at me!😂😂😂

Just because l was multi tasking and didn’t check my typos.

tut tut.

@beelegal

PS kids barred from specific schemes designed to help children from disadvantaged backgrounds....

Who would have guessed so many MNetters could be soooo easily led by a right wing publication...

That different if it is not just private school but the majority of state school children as well. How do the schools choose which children are disadvantaged and who aren’t?

Of course they can but they’ve had their leg up by going to private school, let the state school have a chance. Bear iin mind 61% of doctors went to independent schools.

FSM
Parents not attended univeristy
Catchmemt

Odd to restrict children based on choices parents made 12 yrs prior.

It's appalling. It's not equality, it's disgusting.

ahh ok so nothing to do with the school you attend at all. So 99% of state school children can’t participate in this scheme either?

People just don’t seem to grasp the concept of privilege. Yes, it’s about money.But more importantly, it’s about knowing that you belong. It’s about knowing what’s available and being confident about putting yourself forward for thinz and knowing you have a right to them. Private school/middle class kids usually have that sort of privilege in bucketloads, because they have generally seen their parents and other adults in their lives doing all sorts of jobs and professions. Underprivileged kids don’t have that advantage. Obviously they go to the doctor. But they don’t have, as my kids did, an Aunt and Uncle who are doctors and used to hang round the house and talk about what it was like and how they got there. If my kids had wanted to be doctors they knew how to go about it and if they didn’t they had people to ask. They didn’t NEED work experience! They were state educated, and were hugely privileged compared to most of their peers.Let these opportunities go to the kids who need them. And that’s not the kids of most of them people on this thread.

Uuumm. 7% of pupils go to private school and only 61% of doctors are privately educated. The poor sods are obviously discriminated against. 🙄🙄🙄

You bothered to edit, did you check typos? assuming that yes:

Multitask - Meaning & Examples in a Sentence

So the issue is not with typos, but fundamental knowledge of grammar? I believe English is your first language?

Maybe the issues for some state schools children aren't disadvantage as such, but the teachers which put them at disadvantage?

I was explaining how it’s calculated in general. I don’t know about that scheme.

My experience of these placements is that they are aimed at widening participation and levelling the playing field.

I don't believe there are no opportunities for work experience or voluntary work outside of these specific placements.

Nonsense from the BMA? Is that the bit where junior doctors are trying to reduce a real term drop in pay of a third over the last ten years? That junior doctors are that’s treating you at 3am is in reality on minimum wage.

But again, the top private schools (which I’d wager the majority of the doctors come from) are academically selective so you would absolutely expect that private schools would be disproportionately represented. I am 100% sure if private schools were abolished tomorrow, the exact same children would get the places

People don’t ‘belong’ in the medical profession or any other high-skill role unless they’re good enough. You can’t become, or be inspired to become (except in vanishingly rare cases), a doctor unless you’re clever and able.

Nothing will change that.

Except if the degradation of the profession of medicine that we’re seeing now continues. In which case it will become like teaching: any low-rent or dullard will be able to claim the title.

That's exactly the point. Private secondaries are mostly selective, competition for a place is 10-15-20 kids per place for the likes of Wimbledon, SPS, Westminster, and this is given that only the brightest apply anyway.

And 7% is a headline which people keep on repeating and it's wrong. It's about 18% at A-levels.

A PP asked you "You think all children that go to private school are ‘posh’? Do you also think that all children who go to ‘state’ school, are chavs?"

Your answer was "yes and no". That's what I was responding to, nothing to do with being "posh" is/is not a protected characteristic. Sorry your comprehension is so poor.

Uummm 18% are educated at independent schools at A-level ie 6th form

Yes. It’s bollocks. They got bought off by Labour. And like wolves chasing the meat chucked off the back of the sled they want more and are chasing. They’re perfectly well paid.

Yes, of course, those working class kids shouldn’t have any advantage at all, should they.

What people are missing, is, these programs for decades have favoured private school kids. This is addressing the balance.

Yes i think private school = posh
No i don't think state school = chavs.

HTH

You don’t know anything about medical school acceptance do you.

to apply to medical school (or vet med) there us a criteria of work experience. If you don’t have the relevant work experience (and I think it’s something like 10 weeks) you won’t get a place.

No they aren't. The top ones are yes, same as state grammars are. Many are not selective