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tubsters · 16/08/2025 17:30

Posting with a name change to protect my child’s identity. Has anyone had experience with a Level 3 complaint panel hearing at a school?

My 12-year-old son, who has never really been in trouble before, was given what I feel were punitive and degrading punishments. For example, he was made to sit alone on a bench in the yard for about an hour, as all the other children walked past knowing he’d been excluded from a trip – a clear act of public humiliation.

He was also called into a meeting with the Head and three other teachers, where he was pressured to end every sentence with “sir.” He was clearly nervous, and this only heightened the power imbalance and distress he felt. he is usually very polite and would always use ‘sir ‘ in normal circumstances

I accept that children need discipline and have always supported teachers, but the way this was handled felt oppressive and unnecessary, especially for a child who posed no danger and was already anxious.

The Head has denied much of this, so I escalated it to the governors and it’s now going to a panel hearing. I feel quite daunted about going up against the school, but I strongly believe this needs to be addressed for my son’s sake and for other children in the future.

If anyone has been through a panel hearing and can share their experience or advice, I’d be really grateful.

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tubsters · 16/08/2025 18:32

Aichek · 16/08/2025 18:26

I'm a governor and sometimes chair complaint panels. One of the things I would be asking you is- what do you want to happen as a result of the complaint? Sometimes parents don't have anything in mind here apart from getting a teacher in trouble. If you make some notes about why you think what happened was a problem, and crucially how it was not in line with a school policy, that will help.

School have always prepared quite carefully and are usually able to provide us with a lot of context and background.

Is it an academy or a maintained school? Our clerk is very good on what can and can't be referred to as part of the hearing and will note take and support with an outcome letter. We are able to make other recommendations on policy and practice which we usually follow up in committee. If an action has been taken in line with a policy, and the policy is not illegal or discriminatory in any way, we'd be unlikely to uphold a complaint, but could suggest a policy is revisited if the hearing brought issues to light.

Just be calm and professional about it. Governors give up their time for free to do this and it's very time consuming with the prep, hearing and outcomes, so we appreciate it if everyone makes it easy for us as we all have our own full time jobs. This includes lodging any written notes or paperwork in a timely fashion.

Yes it is a private school

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tubsters · 16/08/2025 18:33

JLou08 · 16/08/2025 18:29

I don't like power and authority personally and it's not the way I parent. This is the way secondary schools are and have always been run though. To be honest unless it was some small exclusive private school the power imbalance is probably needed, some teenagers have really poor behaviour and don't respond to the nice and gentle approach.

It is a small exclusive private school and he is in the last year - so not secondary.

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tubsters · 16/08/2025 18:34

MrsMitford3 · 16/08/2025 18:26

I wonder if he has taken on your attitude when responding to people?

Because your replies to people here have been very argumentative and chippy.

I think if you are going in to a panel you need to decide what outcome you want and work productively to get it.
It doesn't seem to me any of it was awful and degrading but you have clearly made up your mind that it was, I don't really think you are going to get what you want out of this and I would just walk away if I were you.

Definitely not as assertive and no nonsense as I am. He is actually pretty shy

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GrannyWeatherwaxxx · 16/08/2025 18:40

tubsters · 16/08/2025 18:05

humilition and degrading punishments don’t have a place now in modern schools. Might in your parenting perhaps

I was humiliated twice at school (once purely for not knowing the answer to a question I didn’t understand) and I still recall the humiliation of another child. I agree that humiliation is a shit way to discipline a child. It doesn’t teach a lesson in my opinion.

I know that’s not what you were looking for, I don’t know anything about panels. I don’t know what your son did or if the discipline he received was appropriate or not, just talking about humiliation as a punishment.

MrsMitford3 · 16/08/2025 18:41

tubsters · 16/08/2025 18:34

Definitely not as assertive and no nonsense as I am. He is actually pretty shy

So is this about him or you now @tubsters ?

Honestly I don't think you are going to "win" and it is obviously very stressful and upsetting for you.

Isn't your time and energy better used in other ways? Maybe put in writing how you feel and then leave it- I don't see them apologising and will only waste more time and resources and get you no where but angrier.

Sometimes winning is not fighting any more...

BrentfordForever · 16/08/2025 18:42

tubsters · 16/08/2025 18:07

Sitting outside on a yard in public view as he is crying as all his friends file past him?
i dont find that acceptable.

I agree with you

my kid has detentions and it was in a private room

this is private no reason for full view as I would not like my boss to expose my performance to others

to your point yes we have been to level three complain where in that round we presented our case the Principle and 3 staff from leadership team and we won (it was private school and we asked for half fees off)

we were prepared, presented our case of how the school failed expectations and how this impacted our kids life and ours

good luck x

tubsters · 16/08/2025 18:44

MrsMitford3 · 16/08/2025 18:41

So is this about him or you now @tubsters ?

Honestly I don't think you are going to "win" and it is obviously very stressful and upsetting for you.

Isn't your time and energy better used in other ways? Maybe put in writing how you feel and then leave it- I don't see them apologising and will only waste more time and resources and get you no where but angrier.

Sometimes winning is not fighting any more...

I guess i am kind of angry. We have gone through 9 years of towing the line, never , ever complaining, being the ‘good parents ‘ even when there has been some really questionable behaviour by other boys over the years towards my son. And his first alleged misdemeanour they threw the book at him . It has really pissed me off.

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tubsters · 16/08/2025 18:46

BrentfordForever · 16/08/2025 18:42

I agree with you

my kid has detentions and it was in a private room

this is private no reason for full view as I would not like my boss to expose my performance to others

to your point yes we have been to level three complain where in that round we presented our case the Principle and 3 staff from leadership team and we won (it was private school and we asked for half fees off)

we were prepared, presented our case of how the school failed expectations and how this impacted our kids life and ours

good luck x

Thank you for your kind reply. Can I just ask how you prepared please?

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Whinge · 16/08/2025 18:47

And his first alleged misdemeanour they threw the book at him

He was asked to sit on a bench. Confused

Corfumanchu · 16/08/2025 18:48

OP do yourself a favour and drop it. You are only embarrassing yourself, and you should be aware this stuff will be recorded on CPOMS and passed on to the next school. You will come across as someone who has problems with authority, and mark your son's card before he even starts.
I should bloody well hope that there is an imbalance of power between SLT and a 12 year old pupil! How on earth could a school run otherwise?
I don't know about the sittingbon a bench stuff but I guess it was a supervision issue. Did you really expect the school to magic up an extra adult to supervise your DS while they loaded the others up on the coach or whatever was happening at the time. If he us naughty and is punished and cries, the school are not expected to pander to his embarrassment.
You strike me as someone who feels they lack agency in their own life and is trying to redress that by attempting to (inappropriately) exert parental authority.

BrentfordForever · 16/08/2025 18:54

tubsters · 16/08/2025 18:46

Thank you for your kind reply. Can I just ask how you prepared please?

I got DH to present as he is very non - emotive

any kind of emotion unless is quiet disappointment and sadness will not work

we prepared couple of days before based on

  • what school had promised (to earlier discussions with us and what they advertised as school ethos)
  • what happened to our kid as a result of schools approach (very important to mention mental health, could be anxiety, humiliation, panic, sadness, avoidance going out/engaging)
  • on the day it was a Teams call, no presentation slides or anything but DH put his distraught face on and was clear “how saddened we were with school’s approach etc..as did not expect based on ….”
  • it’s super important to highlight WHY you chose that school (based on what), and what you end up getting
  • i can’t emphasise enough how calm and emotionless you must be

we won, decided to leave that school as we ended up hating it , and were delighted we didn’t have to pay half of very expensive fees

good luck x

HumanRightsAreHumanRights · 16/08/2025 18:56

My boarding school, which had day girls who used to go home as well as boarders, used to have a punishment known as hat detention, where you had to stand in your full school uniform including your hat at the front of the school beside the doors of the main exit at the end of the day while everyone filed past you.
You then got to leave last after everyone else had seen you.

They stopped it in the 80s on the grounds it was an abusive punishment that only served to humiliate.

I would seriously question a school that used humiliation as a punishment in 2025.

peacetree · 16/08/2025 18:57

Op just drop it.
No offence but you need and a lot of other parents need to except the fact that your kids are not always angels when you are not around.

He done wrong got asked to sit on a bench.
Your acting like its the 1900s with public humiliation.

tubsters · 16/08/2025 18:57

Corfumanchu · 16/08/2025 18:48

OP do yourself a favour and drop it. You are only embarrassing yourself, and you should be aware this stuff will be recorded on CPOMS and passed on to the next school. You will come across as someone who has problems with authority, and mark your son's card before he even starts.
I should bloody well hope that there is an imbalance of power between SLT and a 12 year old pupil! How on earth could a school run otherwise?
I don't know about the sittingbon a bench stuff but I guess it was a supervision issue. Did you really expect the school to magic up an extra adult to supervise your DS while they loaded the others up on the coach or whatever was happening at the time. If he us naughty and is punished and cries, the school are not expected to pander to his embarrassment.
You strike me as someone who feels they lack agency in their own life and is trying to redress that by attempting to (inappropriately) exert parental authority.

I am really intrigued by your last paragraph ? Can you expand please

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MrMucker · 16/08/2025 18:58

So you still won't tell us the "alleged misdemeanour".
You sound vengeful when confronted with your child's misbehaviout.
Yes, that is presumptuous, but what else do we think when we don't know what he "allegedly" did.
It's kind of relevant.

tubsters · 16/08/2025 18:58

HumanRightsAreHumanRights · 16/08/2025 18:56

My boarding school, which had day girls who used to go home as well as boarders, used to have a punishment known as hat detention, where you had to stand in your full school uniform including your hat at the front of the school beside the doors of the main exit at the end of the day while everyone filed past you.
You then got to leave last after everyone else had seen you.

They stopped it in the 80s on the grounds it was an abusive punishment that only served to humiliate.

I would seriously question a school that used humiliation as a punishment in 2025.

This is exactly what I think! Thank you. I too went to boarding school and things were supposed to have changed. What would you do?

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tubsters · 16/08/2025 18:59

peacetree · 16/08/2025 18:57

Op just drop it.
No offence but you need and a lot of other parents need to except the fact that your kids are not always angels when you are not around.

He done wrong got asked to sit on a bench.
Your acting like its the 1900s with public humiliation.

Believe me, as an experienced parent of 4 kids over 20 years I do accept my children (and other children) are not angels

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tubsters · 16/08/2025 19:00

MrMucker · 16/08/2025 18:58

So you still won't tell us the "alleged misdemeanour".
You sound vengeful when confronted with your child's misbehaviout.
Yes, that is presumptuous, but what else do we think when we don't know what he "allegedly" did.
It's kind of relevant.

No- it isn’t actually relevant. No child should be subject to humiliating punishments no matter what they do.

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tubsters · 16/08/2025 19:02

Corfumanchu · 16/08/2025 18:48

OP do yourself a favour and drop it. You are only embarrassing yourself, and you should be aware this stuff will be recorded on CPOMS and passed on to the next school. You will come across as someone who has problems with authority, and mark your son's card before he even starts.
I should bloody well hope that there is an imbalance of power between SLT and a 12 year old pupil! How on earth could a school run otherwise?
I don't know about the sittingbon a bench stuff but I guess it was a supervision issue. Did you really expect the school to magic up an extra adult to supervise your DS while they loaded the others up on the coach or whatever was happening at the time. If he us naughty and is punished and cries, the school are not expected to pander to his embarrassment.
You strike me as someone who feels they lack agency in their own life and is trying to redress that by attempting to (inappropriately) exert parental authority.

I am not embarrassed in the slightest ! It takes a lot to embarrass me - and standing up for my children is not one of them

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Spies · 16/08/2025 19:03

tubsters · 16/08/2025 19:00

No- it isn’t actually relevant. No child should be subject to humiliating punishments no matter what they do.

The trouble is you see it as they sat him there for humiliation but it wasn't the purpose of him being there. He might have felt embarrassed that others had seen him upset but he wasn't sat there with the intention of being publicly humiliated, he was sat there because he needed to be supervised by an adult when happened to be also teaching a lesson.

Whinge · 16/08/2025 19:04

tubsters · 16/08/2025 19:00

No- it isn’t actually relevant. No child should be subject to humiliating punishments no matter what they do.

He wasn't humilated. He was asked to sit on a bench, presumably so the staff could keep an eye on him as well as the other students. Yes he was upset, but that's what happens when a child realises the consequences of their actions.🤷‍♀️

BrentfordForever · 16/08/2025 19:05

Whinge · 16/08/2025 19:04

He wasn't humilated. He was asked to sit on a bench, presumably so the staff could keep an eye on him as well as the other students. Yes he was upset, but that's what happens when a child realises the consequences of their actions.🤷‍♀️

Surely they have other places to get him to reflect?

TizerorFizz · 16/08/2025 19:05

@tubsters Some posters are missing the point that schools have behaviour policies (behaviour for learning) and these should be followed. I’ve attached one listing punishments that’s published for my local school. You need to look at your policy.

I am assuming this is a strict school if addressing teachers as “sir” is required. What are women called? Very formal for 2025.

Going back to the behaviour policy - be honest about what dc has done and his pattern of behaviour. Then look at the punishments they list. Obviously litter picking (as listed here) is humiliating but is this worse than sitting on a bench? Not sure. Usually a punishment must fit the crime and not be plucked out of thin air. So when you prepare your complaint, tie it in to what they say in the policy. They cannot wing it. When does a dc see the head? Should a parent be present? What had they done to warn dc and how did they try and improve his behaviour? Was it a one off or repeated annoyances? Look very carefully at the policy and if the punishment doesn’t fit, then it’s grounds for complaint.

Complaint against school
Damnd · 16/08/2025 19:06

tubsters · 16/08/2025 18:24

Because I have standards and expect institutions to uphold good values .

Sounds to me that's exactly what they were doing

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 16/08/2025 19:06

I don't think that sitting on a bench is humiliating.

I'd also like to know the index offence.

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