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Whitehall “braced for private schools collapse” 5

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ICouldBeVioletSky · 18/04/2025 11:15

Starting a continuation thread in anticipation of the fourth one filling up…

www.mumsnet.com/talk/education/5301690-whitehall-braced-for-private-schools-collapse-4?page=39

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SmegmaCausesBV · 02/05/2025 13:35

CurlewKate · 02/05/2025 13:32

As I said. I don’t agree with the policy. But this neither new nor initiated by Labour, as a pp implied, possibly by accident.

I think you have to admit it has become Joint Enterprise on behalf of Labour? If they/you really didn't like it they would have stopped it rather than made it even easier.

Ubertomusic · 02/05/2025 13:43

CurlewKate · 02/05/2025 13:32

As I said. I don’t agree with the policy. But this neither new nor initiated by Labour, as a pp implied, possibly by accident.

People voted Labour because they wanted change from years and years of "f* you that's why".
Is this the change they wanted?

CurlewKate · 02/05/2025 13:45

I’m not going to argue in favor of selling off school playing fields. I’ll come back when we’re talking about something else!

SmegmaCausesBV · 02/05/2025 13:48

CurlewKate · 02/05/2025 13:45

I’m not going to argue in favor of selling off school playing fields. I’ll come back when we’re talking about something else!

Unintended consequences of actions. 2 private schools here fighting it out and over half of the local schools rely on their sports fields...

LeakyRad · 02/05/2025 14:08

As we've agreed on the school fields thing, let's go back to discussing how cutting the education budget and closing down advanced maths, STEM, language and other programmes is really raising educational standards.

And how the VAT policy will simultaneously raise £££ VAT moolah bonanza for 6500 new teachers and mountains of porridge oats (due to having no effect on children moving sector nor on family financial decisions), but also will encourage hoards of sharp-elbowed pushy parents into improving the state sector (due to a sufficiently large proportion of 7% of children leaving private education, whilst all those sharp-elbowed pushy parents already in the state sector were ineffectual at it).

KendricksGin · 02/05/2025 14:13

CurlewKate · 02/05/2025 13:32

As I said. I don’t agree with the policy. But this neither new nor initiated by Labour, as a pp implied, possibly by accident.

Yes it absolutely was implied that it was new or initiated by Labour.

twistyizzy · 02/05/2025 14:13

SmegmaCausesBV · 02/05/2025 13:48

Unintended consequences of actions. 2 private schools here fighting it out and over half of the local schools rely on their sports fields...

Exactly! Many state schools rely on local indy schools for sports facilities. If those indy schools close due to this government then where the hell do those state kids find sports facilities?

Fucking make any of it make sense!!! No-one can and that's why we are seeing the results we are seeing today. Labour are making things worse for everyone 🙄 Yet they and their supporters just bleat on about "free breakfasts/Tories/move faster". All while Rome burns and children from both state + indy sector suffer.

EasternStandard · 02/05/2025 14:21

twistyizzy · 02/05/2025 14:13

Exactly! Many state schools rely on local indy schools for sports facilities. If those indy schools close due to this government then where the hell do those state kids find sports facilities?

Fucking make any of it make sense!!! No-one can and that's why we are seeing the results we are seeing today. Labour are making things worse for everyone 🙄 Yet they and their supporters just bleat on about "free breakfasts/Tories/move faster". All while Rome burns and children from both state + indy sector suffer.

Loyal Labour supporters won’t shift but the electorate might, looking at today,

At least it can be overturned at next GE, although the damage by then is very depressing.

CurlewKate · 02/05/2025 14:32

As a point of information, the whole “private schools share their facilities” thing is an idea more honoured in the breach than the observance…..

CurlewKate · 02/05/2025 14:34

ah,@twistyizzy! Care to clarify the “Now they are…”comment?

Thanksforthesun · 02/05/2025 14:39

CurlewKate · 02/05/2025 14:34

ah,@twistyizzy! Care to clarify the “Now they are…”comment?

I assumed @twistyizzy to be making the point that, on TOP of everything else Labour are doing to dismantle education in this country, private or otherwise, they are also selling off school playing fields. Not that it is a new endeavour..?

twistyizzy · 02/05/2025 14:49

CurlewKate · 02/05/2025 14:34

ah,@twistyizzy! Care to clarify the “Now they are…”comment?

Not until I get am answer from you about all the damage Labour are causing in state schools. Instead you nitpick around the context of a single word I use. Defection.....

KendricksGin · 02/05/2025 14:58

Thanksforthesun · 02/05/2025 14:39

I assumed @twistyizzy to be making the point that, on TOP of everything else Labour are doing to dismantle education in this country, private or otherwise, they are also selling off school playing fields. Not that it is a new endeavour..?

Well they either knew it was just an extension of an existing policy and went into hyperbolic mode. Or they didn't know, which is quite surprising if they have worked in education for 25 years. Neither is a good look.

EasternStandard · 02/05/2025 14:59

KendricksGin · 02/05/2025 14:58

Well they either knew it was just an extension of an existing policy and went into hyperbolic mode. Or they didn't know, which is quite surprising if they have worked in education for 25 years. Neither is a good look.

@twistyizzylooks fine. Nothing wrong with her posts.

CurlewKate · 02/05/2025 15:05

@twistyizzyHappy to answer any specific points you would like me to. Sorry if I missed when you did that-could you point me to it if you did. I’m not going to answer “The Labour Party’s education policy is complete shit-do you agree?”

twistyizzy · 02/05/2025 15:05

KendricksGin · 02/05/2025 14:58

Well they either knew it was just an extension of an existing policy and went into hyperbolic mode. Or they didn't know, which is quite surprising if they have worked in education for 25 years. Neither is a good look.

So instead of answering anything about the mess Labour is making of state education you just resort to calling me hyperbolic 🤣🤣🤣
Classic.

Ubertomusic · 02/05/2025 15:08

CurlewKate · 02/05/2025 14:32

As a point of information, the whole “private schools share their facilities” thing is an idea more honoured in the breach than the observance…..

What on earth do you mean?

Shambles123 · 02/05/2025 15:09

Do the Labour supporters here think that they have good policies lined up for state schools? Do you agree with the new bill?

KendricksGin · 02/05/2025 15:11

twistyizzy · 02/05/2025 15:05

So instead of answering anything about the mess Labour is making of state education you just resort to calling me hyperbolic 🤣🤣🤣
Classic.

Why the heck are you asking me? I've only had elite experience, remember? Find yourself a Labour supporter to spar with. Or spend some time getting your facts right.

twistyizzy · 02/05/2025 15:14

KendricksGin · 02/05/2025 15:11

Why the heck are you asking me? I've only had elite experience, remember? Find yourself a Labour supporter to spar with. Or spend some time getting your facts right.

Now who is being hyperbolic?

LeakyRad · 02/05/2025 15:18

Shambles123 · 02/05/2025 15:09

Do the Labour supporters here think that they have good policies lined up for state schools? Do you agree with the new bill?

I applaud your efforts to drag the thread back vaguely towards the topic of current government education policy, but I think the supporters are too busy pointing at squirrels. (Oh, there's a squirrel emoji 🐿)

CurlewKate · 02/05/2025 15:19

Ubertomusic · 02/05/2025 15:08

What on earth do you mean?

Much is often made of the benefits private schools
provide to state schools. If you look closely the benefits are less clear. One of the most common actions is private school teachers serving on State school boards of governers….

twistyizzy · 02/05/2025 15:20

LeakyRad · 02/05/2025 15:18

I applaud your efforts to drag the thread back vaguely towards the topic of current government education policy, but I think the supporters are too busy pointing at squirrels. (Oh, there's a squirrel emoji 🐿)

"Supporters" is being generous although grammatically correct i suppose, there are 2 of them 🤣

CurlewKate · 02/05/2025 15:20

Shambles123 · 02/05/2025 15:09

Do the Labour supporters here think that they have good policies lined up for state schools? Do you agree with the new bill?

Largely yes, in theory.

KendricksGin · 02/05/2025 15:36

twistyizzy · 02/05/2025 15:14

Now who is being hyperbolic?

Oh dear, now it's evident that you don't know the meaning of hyperbolic, yet personify it.

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