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Whitehall “braced for private schools collapse” 2

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ICouldBeVioletSky · 01/01/2025 20:05

Starting a second thread as the first one is still very busy, albeit it's veered off in a few directions...

Original article

https://www.thetimes.com/article/e6465c9e-d462-48cb-a73e-74480059a1f3?shareToken=05bf599cd4a2376fe3ce83cdce607100

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twistyizzy · 07/01/2025 10:35

welshthunder · 07/01/2025 10:34

Glee and spite, well firstly, I've followed these threads carefully and there have been isolated comments but nothing significant. But secondly, glee and spite work both ways. I live in an area with many private schools (mine went to state) and in social situations we had some unbelievable comments from private school parents and have seen the same on these threads - not doing our best for our children, not ambitious enough, not willing to make enough sacrifices, 'we just couldn't risk state school', I could go on.

Have you and your kids been called abusive names purely on your choice of school? I have and my child has on threads such as these

welshthunder · 07/01/2025 10:46

Yes.

twistyizzy · 07/01/2025 10:47

welshthunder · 07/01/2025 10:46

Yes.

By private school parents? You have been sworn at?

welshthunder · 07/01/2025 10:56

Yes.

Lebr · 07/01/2025 11:24

We had to remove a child with SEN from state school to stop the slow-motion car crash that was unfolding. Private or state, if you haven't left your parent-teacher meetings and cried with frustration at the extent to which your child has been failed then you've been fairly lucky.
Generally speaking we don't talk about their SEN because it's nobody's business but ours. Disabilities, SEN and SpLD are often hidden and are nobody's business but the family and teachers. In general you can have no idea what caused a parent to choose the school they did.
I have extended family in a grammar school area who sent their kids to the grammar schools. They choose to look down their nose at us because we have to pay for something they got for free. Name-calling, swearing and just general sneering at other people's choices happen on both sides. But in this case they feed into Labour's them-and-us divisive class war rhetoric and distract from the fact that both private and state schools will be harmed by this economically incompetent policy.

comedia24 · 07/01/2025 11:46

Completely agree @Lebr and very similar experience here. The point when you realise that they are going to do absolutely nothing to help your children...

CautiousLurker01 · 07/01/2025 11:50

Lebr · 07/01/2025 11:24

We had to remove a child with SEN from state school to stop the slow-motion car crash that was unfolding. Private or state, if you haven't left your parent-teacher meetings and cried with frustration at the extent to which your child has been failed then you've been fairly lucky.
Generally speaking we don't talk about their SEN because it's nobody's business but ours. Disabilities, SEN and SpLD are often hidden and are nobody's business but the family and teachers. In general you can have no idea what caused a parent to choose the school they did.
I have extended family in a grammar school area who sent their kids to the grammar schools. They choose to look down their nose at us because we have to pay for something they got for free. Name-calling, swearing and just general sneering at other people's choices happen on both sides. But in this case they feed into Labour's them-and-us divisive class war rhetoric and distract from the fact that both private and state schools will be harmed by this economically incompetent policy.

Private or state, if you haven't left your parent-teacher meetings and cried with frustration at the extent to which your child has been failed then you've been fairly lucky.

wish there was a ‘hug’ icon in the reaction bar as 💙 doesn’t seem appropriate. 🫂

CatkinToadflax · 07/01/2025 11:53

Lebr · 07/01/2025 11:24

We had to remove a child with SEN from state school to stop the slow-motion car crash that was unfolding. Private or state, if you haven't left your parent-teacher meetings and cried with frustration at the extent to which your child has been failed then you've been fairly lucky.
Generally speaking we don't talk about their SEN because it's nobody's business but ours. Disabilities, SEN and SpLD are often hidden and are nobody's business but the family and teachers. In general you can have no idea what caused a parent to choose the school they did.
I have extended family in a grammar school area who sent their kids to the grammar schools. They choose to look down their nose at us because we have to pay for something they got for free. Name-calling, swearing and just general sneering at other people's choices happen on both sides. But in this case they feed into Labour's them-and-us divisive class war rhetoric and distract from the fact that both private and state schools will be harmed by this economically incompetent policy.

Us too. And the spiteful comments just serve to twist the knife even further.

Kittiwakeup · 07/01/2025 12:21

CautiousLurker01 · 06/01/2025 20:44

Perhaps a bit of levity went over your head, there?

That aside, there is no way anyone with half a brain, let alone training in Comm, should post a song in a MFL to which they have not checked the lyrics in translation first.

Idiocy.

Ah just 'levity' then? Is it only 'glee and spite' when the comments are in the other direction?

Barbadossunset · 07/01/2025 12:55

I live in an area with many private schools (mine went to state) and in social situations we had some unbelievable comments from private school parents and have seen the same on these threads - not doing our best for our children, not ambitious enough, not willing to make enough sacrifices, 'we just couldn't risk state school', I could go on.

@welshthunder If you found it unpleasant - which I’m sure you did - being on the receiving end of these comments about sending your children to state school, then surely you must see how unpleasant it is for parents with children at private schools also being insulted?

twistyizzy · 07/01/2025 13:40

A 3rd school announced today that it will be closing meaning all kids need another school by Sept and all staff being made redundant.
That's 3 since 1st Jan

Sasskitty · 07/01/2025 14:07

UK following the example set by Greece then, when Greece introduced VAT on education. They soon retracted it. I doubt Labour are humble enough to do that.

NiftyTraybake · 07/01/2025 14:18

twistyizzy · 07/01/2025 13:40

A 3rd school announced today that it will be closing meaning all kids need another school by Sept and all staff being made redundant.
That's 3 since 1st Jan

Is the identity of this school public knowledge?

CautiousLurker01 · 07/01/2025 14:21

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twistyizzy · 07/01/2025 14:32

NiftyTraybake · 07/01/2025 14:18

Is the identity of this school public knowledge?

Yes

NiftyTraybake · 07/01/2025 14:33

twistyizzy · 07/01/2025 14:32

Yes

So... guess what my next question is?

boys3 · 07/01/2025 14:35

Maidwell Hall ?

twistyizzy · 07/01/2025 14:36

boys3 · 07/01/2025 14:35

Maidwell Hall ?

Yes

twistyizzy · 07/01/2025 14:36

NiftyTraybake · 07/01/2025 14:33

So... guess what my next question is?

You could have easily googled to be fair as it's in public domain now

boys3 · 07/01/2025 14:38

they have a reasonably detailed announcement on their website.

NiftyTraybake · 07/01/2025 14:53

twistyizzy · 07/01/2025 14:36

You could have easily googled to be fair as it's in public domain now

I did, without any joy.

twistyizzy · 07/01/2025 14:53

NiftyTraybake · 07/01/2025 14:53

I did, without any joy.

OK fair enough sorry

IVTT · 07/01/2025 15:04

boys3 · 07/01/2025 14:40

Another 150 kids losing their school.

PemberleynotWemberley · 07/01/2025 15:15

Shocked by this- I don't know Maidwell Hall other than as part of the former Cothill Trust, but I would have thought the 'old school prep' demographic would have been better able than most to remain in play. Really sad news for those children and staff .