STEINER WALDORF SCHOOLS AND INSTITUTIONS

[theantignome]

hi everyone, i wanted to start a new thread with a NEW topic heading here, as the active one at the moment with over 700 posts looks like it is all about the Cambridge school. This may confuse newcomers.

Let's continue the debate here !
All newcomers welcome !

I will shortly link our two previous threads on MN for any one new to have a look at.

Davy, could you also give a link to your new yahoo list here please ? Thanks.

"Similar judgments of the site have apparently been made by two of the major search engines on the net; Google and Altavista."

Don't bother asking me again what I mean when I say that you are a liar.

All your own web sites again Sune. It's BS.

I think people have seen your web sites now. You've posted links to them numerous times. The rest of us have quite sparsely posted links to critical sites, including PLANS.

Seriously distorted, cultivating myths, defamation, delusion, inaccuracies - yes, are you thinking of your websites Sune? It seems so to me. I urge people to look closely on Sune's web sites. (If you want the complete lunacy readily at hand:

www.google.se/search?q=+site:www.thebee.se+thebee&num=20&hl=sv&filter=0
www.google.se/search?q=+site:www.waldorfanswers.org+waldorfanswers&num=20&hl=sv&filter=0
www.google.se/search?q=+site:www.americans4waldorf.org+americans4waldorf&num=20&hl=sv&filter=0

Note that there are many pages. Some more crazy than others. I really think people who consider waldorf education get this glimpse of the anthroposophical mind. It's scary. Would they want their kids to be educated by people with minds operating as weakly as this? I don't think so. Where anthroposophy enters, reason exits.

Kneedeepinthedirtylaundry:

"hello all, new name for me"

You mean, finally succeeding in logging in with your "new name", "Kneedeepinthedirtylaundry"?

Didn't you tell how ashamed you were last time you tried, but failed to do it, and instead logged in with your real nick-name?

So, it's time for another try to troll.

Good one!

Why would you think anyone would believe this, Sune? Considering the crap that does come up on google or altavista, it's obvious that it takes special maneuvering to have anything censored. They remove things under threat of liability - one of your pet topics. You're an Internet bully, you spend all day doing this just to try and stay in control of the impression people receive of Steiner or Steiner education from browsing the net. Why don't you get a job or something? People aren't stupid, you know. The only place you can play these tunes and have anyone follow is where critics aren't listening and available to offer the real story to respond to your lies. You rely on the fact that the rest of us have jobs and families and lives and can't keep up with someone like you who has nothing else to do.

DianaW:

"I'm hysterical over here."

That's how an administrator at Wikipedia described you too.

Internet judgement? Que?

Internet is pretty much lawless land, Sune. That's why you get away with what you get away with, comparing Dan Dugan with Usama bin Laden among other defamatory stupidities.

How on earth do you think commercials and ads work? Entirely on the grounds of commercial decisions.

I must say that, despite the incomprehensibility of your last post, you seem to have got more than one thing backwards.

I have no idea what the "Good one, Zooey" refers to.

oooo..what have missed???

wrong person Eva, you saddo! Why this attack on me? I haven't even addressed you? What do you need to be so defensive about.

The answer to that is clear as a bell!

is there a reason for attcking me, eva? I have't even addressed you. Why so defensive?

wrong person, by the way. not that it even matters.

take a look at yourself. If you have any clear vision, that is.

The morning handshake, yes, a whole ritual. It was very ritualized what was to be said while shaking hands, and nobody entered the classroom ever, before handshake and ritual. I really do think it was a control/power thing, though it doesn't necessarily have to be a bad one, if it wasn't for all the other odd rituals and the authoritarianism in waldorf. Taken together it becomes more of a "don't question, no dissent allowed" kind of thing.

oh, thought my first message got lost. they say the same thing, though.

How nice that the wikipedia administrator acknowledged that Diana was having fun and laughing, Sune.

And kneedeep, of course there is a reason Sune/Eva is attacking you. He attacks anything that resembles anthro criticism. If he wasn't being serious, I would definately call him a troll...

Zzoey:

"How nice that the wikipedia administrator acknowledged that Diana was having fun and laughing, Sune."

She (the administrator in question) didn't.

She described Diana as histrionic.

Why on earth is Eva implying that Kneedeep is the same person as Northernrefugee? I'm totally stumped!

because eva is paranoid. neurotic - an anthroposophist in other words.

And since when is "histrionic" the same as "hysterical" in the context Diana used it?

Who's the wikipedia moderator and in which context did she say exactly what? Did you perhaps have some involvement in the wiki disaster? What did the wiki moderators say about you? I could think of a number of things.

Janni, I'm stumped too! And how creepy! Is he trying to give me the impression I'm being watched? Silent threat?

I'm now thinking of changing my name to Teutonic Troll

"I'm hysterical over here."

That's how an administrator at Wikipedia described you too.

Once again American idiom Sune. It has more than one meaning.

Diana, again it's not particularily American, we use the word in the exact same way (and look at the similarities of the word: "hysterisk" compared with "hysterical"). If he can't see that, he really wouldn't get the same expression in swedish either. (In fact, the word is used a lot more in the context you used it, than in the original context of a sort of mental debility.)

And again the context might be helpful, since once again it involves Sune Nordwall's lies.

An administrator on wikipedia called me histrionic probably rightly, after a long dispute that started with Sune Nordwall telling lies about me. He claimed on wikipedia that I was there using more than one name, what they call sock puppets. This was not the case, and he had no evidence for it. It's called a lie. The reason I was called histrionic is that I was asking for a "check user" (tracing the computers) to prove my innocence and I had a hard time getting anywhere with the request. It eventually went through, and proved he was lying. On wikipedia as elsewhere online, I've only ever used one name. (with one small exception at wikipedia, I once made an anonymous change on a page involving a family member that my son had edited, not realizing he should not put personal information on the internet. He added his own name; too young to know better. We have a family member who is prominent in certain circles and I did not want people to be able to connect either me or my son to this person publicly, given all the potential for harassment as you all here can imagine. So I anonymously removed my son's personal information. I don't think there's been any other occasion anywhere online where I haven't been Diana Winters.

is this you sune ?

How did you connect that picture with Sune, and how did you find it? (Seems to be from the Swedish (ex-state) church.)

DianaW:

"The reason I was called histrionic is that I was asking for a "check user ..."

As such, just asking for a "check user" to prove one's innocence is no reason to describe someone as histrionic, and as far as I remember that was not the context for the description by Durova of you as histrionic.

As far as I remember, it was made by Durova in the context of a discussion if to suggest that you, like the one who was finally banned indefinitely from editing any Waldorf-related article, were to be banned too or not in the same way.

Don't try to suggest here that I was banned - I was never banned. And yes, that was the context in which she eventually called me histrionic. I was upset because it appeared that you were going to get away with your lie - I was told I had no recourse. Later in some other context they did do a check user which proved you were wrong and I had only ever used one identity. Are you going to admit you lied there again? A new poster had come on and you announced that he or she was really me, because I was quiet for awhile. (I was quiet because my father had a heart attack.) You took the opportunity to try to get me banned. This is what you do. In that same episode, you announced on wikipedia that you knew where I worked. I personally have an amazing history of inappropriate cyber contacts from you.

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