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Epsom College tragedy

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Bambala · 06/02/2023 09:46

I was horrified to read the story about the headteacher and family dying this morning, this poor family and I can't stop thinking about how the children at school must feel learning about this tragedy. I am sure the staff there are being brilliant at supporting them. I remember hearing that my old headteacher had died after I left school and even then being really shocked and upset.

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WinterAconite · 07/02/2023 11:04

I wonder where he got the gun from if not the rifle range.

SpookyBlackCat · 07/02/2023 11:05

He was director of a company called Tanglewood 16. It doesn't seem to be very successful.

find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/10447137/filing-history

The Mail said they had recently sold their house for 1.5 million.

I don't know what his new job was supposed to be.

LexMitior · 07/02/2023 11:11

There will be an inquest and there some of these questions will be answered. A material factor will be the mental health of the father.

thetimehascomesaidthewalrus · 07/02/2023 11:12

What I expected. So sad. RIP Emma and Lettie.
Why is it (almost always) the men?

toomuchlaundry · 07/02/2023 11:14

How do you kill your child in cold blood?

toomuchlaundry · 07/02/2023 11:22

Says on the BBC website he had a gun licence, and they were known to the police

LexMitior · 07/02/2023 11:26

Not known to the police, I think

XelaM · 07/02/2023 11:29

toomuchlaundry · 07/02/2023 11:14

How do you kill your child in cold blood?

It's truly beyond belief.

That's the most incomprehensible part of I found in Chris Watt's case

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Bambala · 07/02/2023 11:29

Surrey Police, who are investigating, are due to give more information later today.
Mr Pattison's gun licence had been recently updated.
The BBC has been told that Surrey Police made a routine phone call to the 39-year-old chartered accountant in the days preceding the killings, because the details of his new home address needed to be checked.
It is understood that the couple was not known to Surrey Police.
The force has referred itself to the Independent Office for Police Conduct, the BBC understands this was a matter of routine.

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GoldenCupidon · 07/02/2023 11:31

That poor woman and that poor girl.

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Bambala · 07/02/2023 11:33

Currently doctors do not need to give any medical conditions that are known about to police who licence guns. This seems ludicrous. Especially if that person is living on a boarding school site.

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Ndd135632 · 07/02/2023 11:44

Mrs Pattison made a distressed call to a family member some time late on Saturday evening, the BBC understands.
By the time the relative arrived, all three were dead.

bastard

Oaktree55 · 07/02/2023 11:45

So he had a licence himself, as expected and nothing to do with school.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 07/02/2023 11:46

It's sickening how often this happens.

LexMitior · 07/02/2023 11:48

It was also a factor in Jake Davison the incel in Plymouth. He too received a licence. He was mentally ill.

Oaktree55 · 07/02/2023 11:49

Bambala · 07/02/2023 11:33

Currently doctors do not need to give any medical conditions that are known about to police who licence guns. This seems ludicrous. Especially if that person is living on a boarding school site.

I don’t think this is the case. The process is very thorough obviously as in this case people can slip through but had he shown and mental health issues previously he wouldn’t have been granted a licence.

toomuchlaundry · 07/02/2023 11:49

This is truly horrific, but just think what other damage he could have caused before turning the gun on himself. Maybe, you should not have a gun licence (or at least not keep your gun on the premises) if you live on school grounds

Ndd135632 · 07/02/2023 11:50

toomuchlaundry · 07/02/2023 11:49

This is truly horrific, but just think what other damage he could have caused before turning the gun on himself. Maybe, you should not have a gun licence (or at least not keep your gun on the premises) if you live on school grounds

But I really think this was about the fact he lost his job and she was excelling in hers. I don’t think he would have gone on a rampage through school. This was a jealous husband.

LexMitior · 07/02/2023 11:51

I wonder just how much inquiry Surrey Police made. All they will have done is check the address change. This case has now gone to IOPC

Oaktree55 · 07/02/2023 11:52

If it wasn’t a gun it would have been a knife. If people want to find a way they will.

sunnydaytoday0 · 07/02/2023 11:52

Oaktree55 · 07/02/2023 11:45

So he had a licence himself, as expected and nothing to do with school.

Well there will still be plenty of questions for the school to potentially answer. IF he was keeping his own gun in that house and he had recently changed the address on the certificate, then the school will need to justify why it allows people to keep firearms in their own home in the middle of schools grounds surrounded by boarding pupils.

Lavenderzen · 07/02/2023 11:52

I thought the same as Nd, a jealous husband - what a bastard.

dogdaydown · 07/02/2023 11:53

Ndd135632 · 07/02/2023 11:50

But I really think this was about the fact he lost his job and she was excelling in hers. I don’t think he would have gone on a rampage through school. This was a jealous husband.

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At least you are now using the term "think".

Ndd135632 · 07/02/2023 11:56

She stumbled over the bit in the podcast where she said he lost his job and that wasn’t supposed to happen. She has just started at a prestigious school. First female head. Jealousy.

Oaktree55 · 07/02/2023 11:58

sunnydaytoday0 · 07/02/2023 11:52

Well there will still be plenty of questions for the school to potentially answer. IF he was keeping his own gun in that house and he had recently changed the address on the certificate, then the school will need to justify why it allows people to keep firearms in their own home in the middle of schools grounds surrounded by boarding pupils.

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Probably because it’s legal if you have a certificate which comes with the necessary appropriate storage etc. Are you suggesting schools walk round staff accommodation checking what they have in their cupboards?!?