Private / Public Schools and Brexit

[jellycat1]

I read the Education boards a lot as we are planning to put our two sons through the pre-prep/prep/public school route. We haven't decided exactly where, but it will either be day Prep in SW London - so on the crazy 7/8+ bus, or a Surrey / Berkshire area day/boarding prep to 13.
My question is to current parents - what is your sense of the effect, if any, of Brexit on the demand for places at the selectives / super selectives? Do you think it may soften demand a bit or have no noticeable effect? We are overseas currently and all my friends' kids are older, so I feel a bit in the dark about it all - but then aren't we all...! Sigh...!
I know nobody has the answer right now but just interested in your thoughts really and what you hear in your schools.
TIA.

Of those I know with children in private school, theyre not expecting any specific impact.
The schools are still receiving the same amount of overseas interest as previously and in some cases more.

Most of those schools don't see a big number of European students anyway, their main foreign students are international being from USA, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Russia, China etc.

If you like advice on private schools in the area you might be best to register at the nappy valley forum online ,

Thanks Reinette. Interesting.
Ksimo I'm not looking for that, thanks. Boys are already registered at the schools we've chosen. Final choice / deposit payment in October.

@jellycat1 I hope they enjoy their new school.

Not a current parent but experienced enough to say Brexit will have virtually no effect at all on the UK private schools system as it stands.

Russian diplomatic expulsions and MLR checks might though

I suspect that the effect will be that an English Public School Education will be a much less valuable commodity, globally.

Why?

Fact of the matter is, most of the parents in Asian countries like China, Hong Kong, Korea, Thailand, etc don't even know what the EU is, or what it means, never mind Brexit! They won't give two monkeys if the UK is in or out either. Chinese and Hong Kong children especially are still pouring into the UK for primary and secondary education and also to universities. Yes, some go to the USA long before the word "Brexit" was invented but this is likely to slow-down due to the impending trade war between the world's top two economic giants. This will only boost and benefit the UK's private education sector.

As for Russia, they don't have much time for the EU. And what about the EU itself, some may ask? There won't be much of an EU left in the not too distant future because they are falling apart.

" demand for places at the selectives / super selectives? "

Those terms don't really apply to private schools, because none of them have any form of distance criteria. And they are allowed to interview, though the weight attached to interview varies between schools.

With state schools, it refers the the difference between those 'superselectives' which take highest exam scores and tie-break by distance on the score when admission number is reached, and 'selective' which takes all,those who have achieved the pass mark and then sort all of them by catchment/distance.

And to answer your question about demand for private school places in London/Home Counties, then no I don't think there will be any let up in the next few years. Because of the British demographic bulge. When that works its way through, then the competition might let up a bit, but it'll be nothing to do with Brexit.

Last financial crisis actually made the demand for places in London worse, because parents who might otherwise have opted for (more expensive) boarding chose day schools instead.

Draylon - you have absolutely nailed it!

peteneras - what a stupid thing to say 'most parents in Asian countries don't know what EU is', astonishing, really. However, your clear lack of intellect won't deter you spreading your half-baked but very firm ideas, however daft they might be; that we've seen in your postings over the years.

I suspect that the effect will be that an English Public School Education will be a much less valuable commodity, globally

A fall in the value of the pound will make English boarding schools more attractive.

Sevenoaks School in Kent is building two new boarding houses (increasing its boarding provision from 30% to 40%/ extra 100 + pupils) - anticipating an increased demand for boarding places as EU/banker parents leave the country while their kids remain here.

Really, wakemeupbefore? Now don't flaunt your ignorance and stupidity on the worldwide web for everyone to see. First off, tell me, what "daff" postings that I seemed to have posted over the years that you've read but never did for once challenge me but instead kept reading them? Guess you must have enjoyed those "daff" postings tremendously for keeping so quiet. . .

Next, how much do you know about Asian countries, it's peoples and cultures? Have you ever set foot on any of the aforementioned Asian countries in the first place? Now, let me say again, not only do most Asian people don't know what the EU is or what it really means - they don't give a flying toss if they did - a significant large chunk of the British population didn't know what the EU is was, until fairly recently when they suddenly woke up and gave two fingers to your beloved EU after having being misled, lied to, conned, for more than 40 years by the EU.

I think a lot of people in Asian countries have heard of the EU, but don't exactly know what it is. Nor do they consider it a factor in choosing where to educate their children. People are looking for an English speaking country which is safe and have a good reputation for all round education, different from the highly pressurized and competitive system in their home country. Most prefer somewhere more conservative and traditional with local guardians whim they can trust. They also want high ranking universities for higher education. So all in all there are not actually a lot of choices in the world. I can't see the demand for boarding school from overseas going down really.

I can't see the demand for boarding school from overseas going down really.
Not sure
if London is no longer an easy base for access to Europe, it will be a lot less desirable.
Weekly boarding places and day schools will be hit as rich families move to where the jobs are elsewhere in the EU and the world

THen again as London is the Money Laundering capital of the world, rich people with money to store will keep buying property and setting up LLPs here
and their kids will keeps wanting to get an "English education"

Dear pete...., could you please try again as

'...Next, how much do you know about Asian countries, it's peoples and cultures? Have you ever set foot on any of the aforementioned Asian countries in the first place? Now, let me say again, not only do most Asian people don't know what the EU is or what it really means - they don't give a flying toss if they did - a significant large chunk of the British population didn't know what the EU is was, until fairly recently when they suddenly woke up and gave two fingers to your beloved EU after having being misled, lied to, conned, for more than 40 years by the EU....'

because your ever so eloquent writing, despite being most passionate, is not making very much sense at all. Given your wobbly grammar and torturous thought process, one is forced to presume you know very little indeed of UK public schools.

because your ever so eloquent writing, despite being most passionate, is not making very much sense at all. Given your wobbly grammar and torturous thought process, one is forced to presume you know very little indeed of UK public schools

Actually, I think the word assume would be a better choice here - if one is picking up on grammar;

If he or she is making an informed guess based on reasonable evidence, presume is the word to use; if a guess is made based on little or no evidence, assume is usually used

@peteneras

Not a current parent but experienced enough to say Brexit will have virtually no effect at all on the UK private schools system as it stands.

What's the experience of reference and how is it applicable to the Brexit situation? Your extraordinarily optimistic prediction is surely based on two more or less questionable assumptions:

1. There will be no economic impact of Brexit on the middle class 😂
2. The government in waiting won't become the actual government, scrap VAT exemption currently enjoyed by indies, and levy extra income tax in the middle class thus pushing many to state

@peteneras You sound a bit like Priti Patel. Yes, yes, we know shitty little EU and by extension the UK couldn't possibly hold a handle to Mighty Asia. Thanks for reminding us.

". . .one is forced to presume you know very little indeed of UK public schools."

Your problem is, wakemeupbefore, you don't know the depth of your ignorance and stupidity in order for you to come here to correct my grammar and question my knowledge on British public schools. You still haven't answered my question whether you've been to any Asian country? I suppose it's pointless asking you how many Asian languages/dialects do you know or speak or have you ever been anywhere near 30 miles within the vicinity of a public school, never mind the world's greatest public school.

Let's just say LondonMum8, public schools worth subscribing to are three, four, and the very top ones almost five times, over subscribed. There are more wealthy people around, both local and especially overseas, than you think!

And indeed, political parties opposed to public schools did try over the ages to scrap them but failed miserably. Why? Because it only means they then will have to educate the 7% extra kids that will be heading to their state schools. Not to mention these hypocrites are secret admirers of public schools where they will send their own kids to given a quarter of a chance!