Plan for 18 year olds to become teachers with on the job training

[noblegiraffe]

So the government's bright idea to solve teacher shortages is not to make any effort to retain the teachers who are leaving in droves, but to allow people to train as teachers on the job with only A-levels.

Because acquiring a solid expertise in your subject first is totally overrated.

www.tes.com/news/school-news/breaking-news/exclusive-first-teaching-apprenticeship-planned

Can you imagine how well it would go down on here...

'My child has just started reception today and his teacher is only 18! He was at the high school up the road in the summer and has only just finished his A levels!! What does he know about teaching young children and how will he cope with my child's needs?!

I want my child moved into Mrs Experienced's class next door. She's been teaching for 15 years and is an actual qualified teacher with a degree; why should my child be short- changed...'

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mathsmum314
"Agreed, but if results decline then parents are straight on top the school causing havoc!"

Its a huge risk to take. Not just with the children's futures but with the government still trying to force schools to become academies.

ok its a risk, but on the other side, the risk is there isn't enough teachers, Its a catch 22.

But how? I spent 4 years full time at uni learning maths from some people who were very good at maths. How can that be fitted in 'on the job'?

It could be done, but it would take a long time.

I spent 4 years doing 'day release' in the NHS, my day at college was 10.00am - 8.00pm with an hour's travel at each end plus independent study.

To get a degree doing it this way would mean at least 6 years training.

ok its a risk, but on the other side, the risk is there isn't enough teachers, Its a catch 22.

It isn't catch 22. Any idiot could look at the numbers of teachers leaving and think about why they are leaving and what could be done to retain them.

"If a school decided to have an apprentice and it worked, then great"

Good plan . Oh wait ...what about the children who've been subjected to a scheme while someone decides if it's working?

"ok its a risk, but on the other side, the risk is there isn't enough teachers, Its a catch 22."

You really think adding to teachers workload (because supervising/mentoring students does) is the answer to teacher burnout?

If a school decided to have an apprentice and it worked, then great

Are you volunteering to have your DC taught by an apprentice, instead of a degree qualified teacher? (The same DC who in another thread were described as being exceptional and needing to be taught beyond the curriculum.)

The academy situation alongside apprentices terrifies me. I can see money-minded management employing apprentices and when they inevitably leave, just get another. It's a lovely cheap solution.

Let's not pretend that academies aren't businesses.

My youngest child has just left school. I can't tell you how glad I am that this is the case. The years ahead terrify me.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-37161480 doctor shortage ... apprentices anyone?

I'm sure all those parents with children who they feel need to be 'stretched', who may be G+T, who are having difficulties settling in, who have additional needs, who are struggling to make friends etc etc will be just fine with their child having an unqualified 18 year old without a degree. Not.

Honestly, the fuss some parents make at my DC's school if their child isn't with the teacher they want!

The head would have fun justifying why their little Johnny has someone with only A levels teaching them, whereas Billy next door has a teacher with a maths degree and 10 years' experience in a inner-city school...

Oh it's fine though, the 18 year old is enthusiastic.

I was really tempted to do an on the job training type teaching qualification but I'm glad I didn't, I wouldn't have been ready I think

I cannot imagine many 18 year olds finding the classroom management a breeze either. My y7 (going into y8) daughter has had two NQTs leave part the way through the year this year at her very leafy and generally v well- behaved grammar. Their subject knowledge seemed excellent (I am a governor) but their classroom management was dire. They've both left teaching completely.