Is anyone else waiting for 11+ results?

[rollonthesummer]

6 days to go and starting to get anxious...!

Thanks Hak, that's a very interesting bit of information. The school I am looking at (worried about) has 24% high attainers with 91% on the 5 A*-C (what happened to that 9% I wonder?) So if we do end up there then all hope is not lost. I feel marginally better now .

Easy to lose 9%! Moment of madness, gone off the rails.....happens at grammar schools too. And remember there will be fewer of them, so 9% might not represent many actual people.

Do the middle and low attainers do well too?

Middle attainers (63% of cohort) with 50%, low attainers (18%) with 6% pass. So those middle attainers not doing so great?

Also interesting is the catchment grammar has 10% middles attainers.

Hakluyt thank you for that link - that's going to keep me busy for hours

You're welcome- but I warn you, it's a real time bandit!

There was a little cohort of girls at DD's state school that were taught maths to an extremely high level, the form teacher borrowed books from the local secondary school and really extended them.They also all got L6 effortlessly.

In DD2's year she was the only girl. In DD1's year all the very high achievers were girls. No rhyme nor reason really!

Sorry Rabbit I disagree my dc(who already have level 5)are clearly redoing level 5 maths at school.They have just done the 11+ and are absolutely bored shatless in maths at school.We will continue to do work at home(tutoring I guess) to keep them interested.Couldn't give a stuff who thinks that is a bad idea.My kids,my decision to push them to the best of their ability.Leaving them to coast because it disadvantages others isn't high on my to do list.

My dd failed. She's gutted. Really shocked, was told by school she was bound to pass. Really disappointed. Obviously haven't expressed this to her. Have told her how proud I am of the work she's done and what she's achieved. Honestly am gutted.

So sorry,do you know what happened?Can you appeal?

parabelle My dd failed Please don't see it as a failure. Another day, a different set of questions could have brought a different outcome.

Bucks is a grammar area that respects the fact that not all children who are grammar material will pull it off on the day. This is why they also offer a 12+ plus and 13+.

Not really, she did well in numeracy (really well) and then quite low in verbal and non verbal and when they did the calculation she was 5 points off the pass mark.
It's a fair result, but it's still disappointing.
Thank you for your support.

Chewbecca

It doesn't help that the most of the people I've spoken to seemed to find it pretty easy and everyone finished the paper, so it is very hard to tell if DS did well or not, did he do better than the next person, who knows?

Yes! I agree with this. Everyone I have spoken to has said this-how can it be?! Having had other children go through the system, and having spoken to them/their friends/mums before, this isn't usually the case. There is usually a pig of a paper, an ok paper and a paper that had lots of questions so lots of children couldn't finish if.

I know now there are only two papers now, but if everyone found it easy/ok and finished with plenty of time to check, won't that really push the pass mark up?? I know children can say it was easy as they didn't appreciate the 'difficulty' of a paper-that's one possibility, but I'm still confused! They can't have everyone passing!

What did your son think of the papers?

Parabelle- my ds failed the 11+ really badly- he was predicted an easy pass by everyone. He was very disappointed, and very upset about not being able to go to school with his friends. He's in year 9 now, and doing very well. It's harder for him than for his grammar school peers, I won't deny that, but he is easily keeping pace with them academically, and he has found lots f things he prefers about his school. Better sport- an interesting range of vocational subjects (two of which he's doing alongside academic GCSEs) for example. There are gaps we've had to fill, and we've had to be more proactive than we would have been if he'd gone to grammar, but it's all worked out fine. Better than fine. So don't worry- once your dd gets over the disappointment help her look for the positives in wherever she's going. There will be plenty. And with your support she'll fly.

DS was supposed to get results today, but they haven't arrived.

I'm a bit peeved, because the council messed up the details of his exam session, so he had to sit a late session yesterday. I'm sure if he'd sat the test on the right day, we would know his results by now.

Anyway, he messed up the answer sheet on one part of the test. Each answer required two answers, and he put both on the same box, wheras he should have used consecutive boxes. He tried to fix it, but ran out of time.

So, we shall see.

Parabelle I'm sorry your DD didn't pass, I hope she doesn't stay upset for long. Is 5 marks away too much to appeal? I am sure she will do well wherever she goes, it sounds like she is a more than able child from the schools comments. I agree with Hak, try and make some positives from the situation if you can.

Good luck sanityclause, hope he gets through.

rollon exactly the same dilemma. It used to be around 55-60% was a pass I think, I don't see that can be the case this time as everyone seems to think they got more than that.

DS found the English very easy and the maths easy. He finished the maths with 10mins to spare (not the case with mocks) and says he guessed a fair few which makes me worried he was not very careful. If the paper was easy and the pass mark rockets, being careful would've been terribly important. Is it a similar story in your house?

We're not talking about it now, I was hoping/planning he wouldn't even know the date of the results but it transpires it is talked about in school so I've lost that control.

"Anyway, he messed up the answer sheet on one part of the test. Each answer required two answers, and he put both on the same box, wheras he should have used consecutive boxes. He tried to fix it, but ran out of time."

This is certainly grounds for appeal.

Thanks for the good luck wishes, Jack.

Thank you, too, Hak. If he's borderline, it's worth considering.

DD found the maths easy-said that loads of the harder stuff we'd looked at didn't come up, it was all pretty straightforward. Oh, except the last question-something about coordinates, she didn't understand that.

From what she's told me, the applied reading page of the English was a bit different, eg, rather than finding one letter to end/start each given word-it was two consecutive letters and the anagram one was finding 3 5 letter words instead of 5 four letter ones which might have bypassed those who were expecting it to be like the familiarisation paper?

The text didn't seem bad-I know Dickens is old-fashioned but it was easy to work out what was going on.

I wonder how they'll mark the continuous writing-that could be a make or break section, I suppose?

DD say she's fine- it's me who can't sleep!! I'm worrying that there will be very little difference between everyone's scores and the pass mark will go sky high.

I have a horrible feeling the whole website will go down on Saturday morning as we all try to login, too!!!

Ah - we plan to move back to the UK after many years abroad. I have a nearly 10 yo and this stuff quite frankly scares me. Is tutoring really the done thing?

Thanks Hakult for having a link back to 1994 . My old school achieved magnificent figures of 10% 5 A-C then.

Yes, I think the general consensus is that the final maths question (nuts and raisins?) was the one killer one. DS just said 'oh yes, I guessed that'. Maybe it'll all be down to that one Q, which will be bad news here.

Have also heard grumbles that the paper (maths especially) was not very like the familiarisation paper. Agree, it didn't seem to cover the tougher maths, which again was a shame for DS as he was comfy with those areas. He is especially good at comprehension too, he has a fab vocab but this wasn't as tough as expected. It didn't sound as though the paper gave him the opportunity to show his strengths, that's for sure. If differentiation is about creative writing and getting near 100% on maths, we're out.

I have a busy couple of days lined up thankfully so i am hoping the time will fly & I'll forget about it some of the time.

Agree too, wouldn't be surprised if website is dodgy on Sat which will be infuriating. Our Saturday post (like many I think) is very flaky, sometimes not at all, was at 5pm on Sat. Aaaarrrrggh.