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What do you know about Steiner schools?

205 replies

hunkermunker · 22/09/2006 17:18

Anyone been to one? Sending their children to one? Know children who go?

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LittleSarah · 24/09/2006 21:16

I would say there is black in nature btw, coal for example, but we weren't usually painting that!

Blandmum · 24/09/2006 21:19

shadow?
coal, obv
A few other types of stone
Moulds
Pigment in a range of animals

rather odd

TaraPalmerTomkinsonsNose · 24/09/2006 21:21

pingu

he is blakc

Blandmum · 24/09/2006 21:21

well, the bits that aren't white

FillyjonktheBananaEater · 24/09/2006 21:23

pmsl at "wanky shoals"

can see why cod wouldn't like that

carbon is also pretty crucial to nature. I am doing an essay on whether life could evolve with silicon/ammonia. I hate it.

TaraPalmerTomkinsonsNose · 24/09/2006 21:23

erm.............

yes

FillyjonktheBananaEater · 24/09/2006 21:25

think steiner did also see black as negative but goethe was his justification, iyswim

TaraPalmerTomkinsonsNose · 24/09/2006 21:26

do you think sometiems epopel take too much notice of what other poeple therosie about?

Blandmum · 24/09/2006 21:27

filly....long chains of silicon wouldn't be stable enough, so macromolecules couldn't exsis! I rememeber wrtiting a very similar essaye.

Yes, as you say carbon is crucial to all life so his comments on carbon being 'anti life' have no basis in scientific reality at all.

lunavix · 24/09/2006 21:28

hunker - you considering schools for ds1?

Haven't read all the posts (got lost somewhere around uniform knitting ) but I was wondering if you are in the same boat as me - I'm starting to think about schools for ds, and looking at the local 'normal' schools I really don't think they should be an option, I'd love him to go somewhere more 'natural'. Learning through experience.

I was eyeing up steiner too (there's one locally) but this has really put me off!

I fell in love with a montessori one ages ago... in all honestly I think half of it is the school itself, not the methods.

lunavix · 24/09/2006 21:30

this is the one ds would be going to given half a chance.. it's amazing. But a bit too far now we moved.

TaraPalmerTomkinsonsNose · 24/09/2006 21:30

hunker si there somehting wrong wiht normal shcools?

FillyjonktheBananaEater · 24/09/2006 21:38

Shock horror at steiner having no basis in science.

was going with the polymer problem-cos the atom is that much bigger so, so less stable...but also, am kind of assuming that ammonia doesn't form hydrogen bonds, thus making stuff like protein formation a leetle bit hard...But then I start thinking about gravity and whether silicon might work on bigger planets...

plummymummy · 24/09/2006 21:38

My husband is black and he is all natural - mind you, I can't paint a brush stroke. Poppetperson I think actually tis you who are the nitpicker. I could say that I never said it was a racist cult but proving it would be nitpicking and more importantly I can't be bothered. So...a far more helpful response......WHATEVER!!!!

Blandmum · 24/09/2006 21:42

no Hydrogen bonds, no secondary , teriary or quanternary protein structure, no life.

Like WOW man, we all exsist because of minute shifts in clouds of electrons, far out man

thankyoupoppet · 24/09/2006 21:45

oh you lot have blinded me with science, am completely lost!

really don't be put off from this thread, or any thread, just visit one and see if it's for you.

good luck all of you seeking out a school for your lo's. Not a decision to be taken lightly or off the back off a mumsnet thread!

(plummymummy -prove it you nitpicker you.)

hunkermunker · 24/09/2006 21:50

Nothing wrong with normal schools - nothing beyond what we all know can be wrong with them anyway!

I just like to have considered all the options with something like this. It's Quite Important, I think.

There are some good schools near us. They were good schools when DH and I went to them too. Didn't stop us being miserable there though. So, I thought I'd look at other options.

Lunavix, I've got DS1's name down for two school nurseries near us and one preschool, but I think I will put his name on a Montessori nursery waiting list too. The one you linked to looks fab. Montessori would suit DS1, I think.

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plummymummy · 24/09/2006 21:53

Oh you seem quite evangelical about it all and the cyncial side of me thinks that if anything is that great, why does it need the hard sell? Ugh ok poppet (sighs wearily) I said "sounds like some kind of cult" not "it is a cult". My interest in the banning of the colour black was just that - interest. As an aside I asked if it extended to black people - yes, that's right - asked! Another poster brought in the notion that the ideology is racist. It's people like you, that make me just want to settle with words like "bewildered"!

thankyoupoppet · 24/09/2006 22:00

right back at you plummy - I said IMPLY or SUGGEST that it might be.

you would get on much better all round if you just read posts properly!

perhaps then you wouldn't wander round all bewildered!

No hard sell here either, you can't buy your way in, you have to go on a long waiting list in most schools. shame.

Blandmum · 24/09/2006 22:02

re the science bit

all living things are made of carbon. the element that Steiner says is the opposite of life.

As a biology teacher this huge howler amused me!

Hope he didn't writ it into his science sylabus.

Out of interest, does anyone know if senior school Steiner kids also only get one teacher?

FillyjonktheBananaEater · 24/09/2006 22:02

hmmm

I don't think poppet is being especially evangelical. I think she has found a school that is right for her dc, and that is great. It sounds like it really suits her child, so of course she is enthusiastic.

As a child they didn't really rock my boat, and I have serious issues with their philosophy and politics, but they are no worse really than any school, imo.

they are not a cult, btw, but they are organised by a quasi religious group. The kids are not even encouraged to join this group, that would interfere with them incarnating. If you send your kid to a steiner school they are more likely to end up chairing AMEX than knitting stripy socks, tbh.

(Filly puts away her stripy socks and prepares to essaye)

FillyjonktheBananaEater · 24/09/2006 22:04

all living things are made of carbon. the element that Steiner says is the opposite of life.

I know, this does make me laugh.

I mean, without carbon you are seriously buggered aren't you, unless you live on a big planet with lots of silicon and ammonia and Filly's Rules of Gravity.

Pretty sure they have specialist teachers for GCSE and A level btw. Its just the first 7 years (7-14) there's just one teacher. Their science results are suprisingly good, considering...

Blandmum · 24/09/2006 22:08

You'd also need a solvent for the silicon, I think. I can't think of one off hand, but then inorganic chemistry was never my strong point.

Or organic, come to that

FillyjonktheBananaEater · 24/09/2006 22:15

i was thinking ammonia. dunno why, think wikipedia might have suggested it. suppose it wouldn't react with silicon.

plummymummy · 24/09/2006 23:13

Ok poppet, if saying it sounds like some kind of cult is suggesting it is one (rather than waiting for evidence to the contrary to help me make a balanced opinion) then busted and hands up. However, never implied it was racist. Steiner schools could well be great and hope all who go down that route are happy with their choice. Thankfully I am mature enough to acknowledge that you and Steiner schools are not joined at the hip (read between the lines).