Why on earth would you go state if you could afford private?

[Schmedz]

This thread is for Maisie and happygardening . I like dares!

I do wish, when I read (and post on) these threads, that there was more discussion about what those of us who care could actually do to make the good education we ALL want for our children available to all...ie how to support state schools towards that end.

Because, I may be confused here, but it seems to me that an awful lot of energy goes into dissing others rather than creating what everyone actually wants. Bar the few who want (openly or secretly) an elite.

Sorry, can't help it - just love the description further down of Surrey as 'sole-less'

Not that I think it is, necessarily. Soulless, that is. Just like the image of a county like a floppy shoe, with missing underparts, limping around

Elibean

Unfortunately, what a lot of private school parents want is what a lot of state school defenders do not want... which is why these threads often end up in two camps.

I'm allergic to Surrey.

Tas - very sad. What, for instance, d'you reckon?

Or do you mean, they want segregation from other sectors of society?

So Tasmania, what do you want for your child's education?

Tasmania I pointed out that committing to pay school fees wholly out of earned income for perhaps as long as 25 years (or more) is not risk averse. This is a matter of fact, based on the definition of the term risk averse. I did not comment on whether I have a mortgage since that fact is irrelevant to the topic on hand.

But RussianOnTheSpree the mortgage thing is important... as by your definition, everyone who has a mortgage, and weren't cash-buyers are gamblers.

It's not my definition, love. And it's irrelevant to the fact that grovel misused a technical term.

Anyway- I am dying to know what Tasmaia thinks private school parents want from education that state school parents don't. If it's something really boring , like school on Saturday, or shorts in winter I will be very disappointed.....

Possibly Tas was referring to the fact that many supporting state say they want their children to go to a local school and mix with people from a diverse range of backgrounds who haven't had to pay fees for their education and that those who choose private school don't particularly care if it is local, diverse or costs lots of money?

Seeker - Gazebos. Or swimming pools? Latin might be a thing. But she'd be wrong about that - I totally wish my kids had the opportunity to learn Latin and I am residually annoyed even now that this will not happen.

The fact that many 'state school supporters' are not 'private school attackers' seems to completely elude some people.

Seeker

Not sure about you, but a lot of very leftist state school parents on here seem to hate the thought of selective schools (so also do not like grammar schools, for example) - which a lot of private schools happen to be.

Ah. It's selection. Bother. I though it was going to be something new and interesting, but it's just "I don't want my child educated with everyone else" again.

Seeker

You make it seem like it doesn't make sense. I thought your DC was in a grammar school - or was that someone else?

Yep. My children can either mix with yobbos or poshos. Not both. It's crap. Nobody in their right mind would actually choose a system like that.

Tas, what is particularly about academic selection that you support?

Is it the academic results? Surely good results are to be expected anyway for an academically able child.

I don't want my children segregated from anyone, ideally.

I'm not a radical lefty, either. I just don't think, in a decent school, it is necessary. Or particularly healthy.

NewFerry

Because I (and many others!) have personal experience of being bullied simply because we were actually interested in learning while others were not.

Simple.

And I even went to a grammar school - but it still was not selective enough (probably took in the top 40%)!!!

seeker - you would rather your SM son be educated at the MC GS. You don't want your precious son educated alongside the WC kids so why do you persist in wheeling out your standard post?

Oh seeker, honestly please just give it a rest. Grammar schools are not all full of poshos. And I'm sure that sec mods are not all full of yobbos either. Aso, being a yobbo is not inextricably linked to income or class. There are in fact many posh yobbos. People like you constantly attempting to scare working class people away from even attempting to apply to grammar schools are doing a Very Bad Thing.

Fascinating that you pop up on the thread to push your bizarre fantasies about my life at this particular point in the thread, BS! Why not get it all out of your system, then the discussion can carry on. I'll just go and get ready for bed- you've got about 15 minutes.

Elibean - a lot of people don't have access to 'decent' alternative. This is something a lot of posters don't get.