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Any advice on the most effective way to deal with a bad teacher

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threesenough · 20/05/2012 07:36

I need advice. My dd's teacher is failing her whole class. I think she has been a good teacher in the past but I - and other parents I have spoken to - feel that she has been in her job too long and has become jaded and can't be bothered.
In every other year at school my dds has enthused about her teachers and in turn teachers have told me how much she loves learning. This year she has become disengaged, bored, despondent. It can only be down to a poor teacher. Next year we are faced with another notoriously poor teacher. In that case I know of mums who petitioned to have her removed or at least shifted to teach a different year that was less crucial to children's educational development (! Not sure which year that could be!!!). Nothing was done.
I feel really powerless to counteract the adverse effects that the combination of two lazy teachers can have on so many children in Y4 and Y5. Other parents who have already been through this stage at our school refer to this as 'the lost years' or 'the wilderness years'.
What is the most effective way to address this issue?Can anyone advise?

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TheFallenMadonna · 25/05/2012 17:29

It is not hard to dismiss a bad teacher. It is however rather brutal, and significantly affects morale. If a head has the stomach for it though, it takes a term.

threesenough · 25/05/2012 21:16

What I find sad is that there is such a 'them and us' between teachers and parents. As a parent I take my hat off to teachers. Most of the time most of them do a great job under a lot of difficult conditions. When I made the original post I did not ask for anyone to judge the teacher and I did not say I wanted her sacked.
I know what people have done at our school in the past about the other teacher who has a bad reputation and nothing happened. As you say petitioning is wrong and undoubtedly that teacher is aware of it and it hit her morale harder.
I would much rather know if there is something I can do from the outside to raise awareness about the problems that are occurring in he class so that effective action is taken to help the teacher, for their sake as well for the sake of the children they are teaching.
When parents share information about their direct experience and express concern about the teacher's wellbeing a lot of teachers on her are calling that gossiping.
This week I have not yet complained about the teacher I originally posted about but I have made a point of approaching two other teachers to tell them what a good job they are doing and to tell them that other parents have said the same.
When we talk about teachers we also tell each other about the good stuff. Is that gossiping as well?

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amillionyears · 25/05/2012 21:30

Are you going to speak to the Head, or the teacher, about your daughters lack of progress?
Now I am confused about what you are after, because all the talking to the other parents in the playground is unlikely to have any influence whatsoever on what is happening in the classrooms.

threesenough · 26/05/2012 00:15

I'm not going to talk to the head as they are leaving. I've lined up a meeting with the key stage head. I've reconsidered what I said when I first posted. I don't really think the teacher is 'bad'. But i do think that there might be something going on in her life that is affecting her work and that is affecting my child. I'm concerned mostly for the children she teaches now and in the future. If she needs more support I hope she gets it.

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mrz · 26/05/2012 07:57

threesenough teachers are parents too so it's difficult for them to adopt and them and us attitude however because they have a foot in each camp they are perhaps better placed (because of experience) to answer than teachers who aren't parents and parents who aren't teachers?

teacherwith2kids · 26/05/2012 12:16

"What I find sad is that there is such a 'them and us' between teachers and parents."

When I spoke to my DD's head, I spoke as a parent - but as a parent who the head knows to be a teacher. As mrz says, I can't divide the 'them' and 'us' because I am both, albeit in different schools.

In some ways, it was a huge disadvantage, and made the conversation much trickier as there is such a fine line between 'being a concerned parent' and 'crossing the line in terms of one professional criticising another in the same profession'. In other ways, it was an advantage, because I was very aware of the need for objective evidence and the limitations on what the head could say about the teacher in question.

amillionyears · 26/05/2012 13:00

were you complaining ?

teacherwith2kids · 26/05/2012 14:54

Absolutely. And as I said up thread, said teacher is taking very early retirement, somewhat abruptly, in July.

yrellim · 14/10/2012 20:27

Tigytap says it well. Teachers can be unique in personality and delivery classroom routines and pupils may need to get use to this. I have had puils wine that Mr so and so was better. Cheeky think I know for a fact Mr soand so so a disciplinary. Enough said.

What are the problems e.g rude to children, unmarked work, work to hard (may be pupils not trying hard enough). If all children are complaining may be a ring leader, teachers can be 'victims' too, be careful but if you have reasons, go for it and good luck.

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