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Saturday Detentions . Cant work out if its a good or bad thing .

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wakeupandsmellthecoffee · 10/11/2011 13:14

This is at a normal state comp .
At Xxxxxx, we are constantly aiming to develop and improve. It is clear that the more time students
are in lessons, the better they achieve.In the past , if a student has repeatedly failed to attend
detentions set for incomplete coursework or homework, they have been sanctioned with a day in the
Inclusion Room. Although this solution has enabled them to catch up on work they should have done
already, it has meant that they have fallen behind in work from other lessons during that day
To prevent this happening, while also ensuring students complete all work expected of them, we have
decided to trial two new sanctions. Students who have not completed coursework or homework for the
required deadline and who have not attended detentions set by their teacher,and then by the Head of
Faculty, will:
· Be put into a two hour detention on a Saturday morning when they will be required to complete
the missing work. One week?s notice will be given of a Saturday morning detention; or
· Where it is deemed appropriate, parents/carers will be asked to attend an after school session with the student in the Learning Resource Centre to supervise their son / daughter completing the missing work .
We will monitor the success of these measures in ensuring students meet coursework and homework
deadlines.
This new system will be implemented from Monday 21November 2011, with Saturday detentions
beginning on Saturday 26 November.
Yours faithfully

Mrs B OSS LADY

To be fair this is a final result . And many things seem to be put in place befor this happens ,ie warnings , checking that nothing is going on elsewhere that would prevent them from completing their work .
Also what about the poor teacher having to supervise it .

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fickencharmer · 10/11/2011 14:22

Saturday detentions.

would some parents challenge this.? Is there a legal framework as to what schools can do? Because I have know some rather eccentric Heads? I refer to state schools.

Akiram · 10/11/2011 14:26

If my DS got to the point of being given a saturday detention then I would damn well make sure he attended.
Snape so much wrong with your post I don't even know where to start.

StrandedBear · 10/11/2011 14:27

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Akiram · 10/11/2011 14:31

By the time DD is of school age both DP and I will be working full time and I am not giving up weekends for a detention. If it has gotten that far then I shal deal with her easy to say when your child hasn't even started Reception yet. But we're talking about secondary scholl (I assume??) My DS is a good student but like most 12year olds he is prone to the odd outburst. He knows that 100% I will back the school re homework/detention/behaviour. He also knows what would happen if we had to give up our (rare) weekend family time so that he attended saturday detention.

Akiram · 10/11/2011 14:32

*school

dairyfairy · 10/11/2011 14:35

're school transport two school busses are run .One at 3.25 ands one at 5.30

That's definitely not the case here!

Whitershadeofpale · 10/11/2011 14:37

We had them at my school for the worst pupils. It was carried out by the senior staff (i.e head, deputy head etc.). They were required to wear the uniform and go litter picking on the common near our school so that everyone driving or walking past knew.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 10/11/2011 14:39

My son's school has Sat detentions as a last resort. I'd drive him there and let him know in no uncertain terms how disappointed I was with him.

fickencharmer · 10/11/2011 14:40

well, I assume the teacher would be paid for saturday work.

Whiter: are you winding us up? Or did you read this in a tabloid?

Whitershadeofpale · 10/11/2011 14:45

No I'm definately not, it was held once a month and was considered the ultimate punishment. After I left school I worked in a nearby pub while at uni and often used to see them doing it, this was only 4 or so years ago.

fickencharmer · 10/11/2011 14:58

Whiter, fair enough. It seemed rather radical.

Whitershadeofpale · 10/11/2011 15:02

I know but tbh until I saw this thread I never questioned it. I didn't realise most other schools didn't do it.

IloveJudgeJudy · 10/11/2011 15:06

I think they're a great idea. Not so good for the teacher, obviously. My DC's school is starting this now and my sense is that it will be the SLT who will be supervising.

I'm in favour because I cannot get my two older DC's to school on time, no matter what I try, unless I have an absolute coronary getting them to get up. My DB was a bit like this and they did have Saturday detention and he said recently that was the only deterrent that worked for him.

Sorry to crash the thread, but does anyone have any ideas what to do to make my DC get up? I don't give any pocket money, one is a ref and one does a paper round to get money, so can't use that threat. I have asked the school for ideas, but they haven't got back to me.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 10/11/2011 15:20

Water pistols. You shouldn't have to do it very often.

Malachite · 10/11/2011 15:21

I think this is a terrible and unworkable idea. Lots of kids will be unable to travel to school for those times and parents are not always able to give lifts, lots will have jobs to go to or no car available. Some teenagers will have saturday jobs and it's unreasonable to expect them to attend a school detention rather than their job. Many kids spend some weekends visiting their non-resident parent, who often lives too far away for the detention to be possible. It's also very important for children's well being to maintain that relationship where possible (and appropriate).

This is all without getting into expecting teachers to give up yet more of their time for their (under appreciated) work.

IloveJudgeJudy · 10/11/2011 15:22

Thanks for that, OldLady! We have pistols in the garage/shed. They didn't even cross my mind. I'll get them out later.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 10/11/2011 15:27
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Acanthus · 10/11/2011 15:27

Snape - would you also refuse to be involved in trips? Saturday sport? You might struggle to get a job I think!

Renniehorta · 10/11/2011 15:36

It is easy to see, from reading this tread, why schools have such problems enforcing discipline. There is a saying 'where there is a will, there's a way'. Parents should work with the school to educate their child. For some there can be no learning until there is discipline.

If it takes a Saturday detention to enforce discipline parents should do their level best to achieve that. Many posters seem as antagonistic towards school as any truculent teenager.

Get real. Work with the school to impose discipline and thereby teach your children.

HannahHack · 10/11/2011 15:39

I think this is a really good idea. I went to a school where if we got 5 bad marks (for misdemeanors) in a week we had to go to a 2h sat detention.

I went to a Catholic school that was v popular. I don't agree with faith schools but proper discipline is one of the things that they do that makes them so popular. This is a simple, cheap strategy that could turn an unpopular school into one of the more disciplined ones that seem so popular with the middle classes. Seriously, when people whine that schools have no discipline I think they kind of have it coming to them unless they are willing to implement simple stringent strategies.

I never had a sat det btw.

fickencharmer · 10/11/2011 15:51

Thats good publicity for catholic schools. Needed?

KatMumsnet · 10/11/2011 15:59

Hi. We've moved this to 'Education', as we think it's the best place for it.

HannahHack · 10/11/2011 16:03

@finckencharmer What do you mean? Your post doesn't make sense.

Do you mean catholic schools using this form of discipline will get good publicity? If so then surely secular schools would get the same publicity if they used the scheme.

SuiGeneris · 10/11/2011 16:17

Really good idea, would back it. If the teenager has to give up an activity or Saturday job to attend detention, so much the better: they will be more carefuL in avoiding them.

juuule · 10/11/2011 16:21

"If the teenager has to give up an activity or Saturday job to attend detention, so much the better:"

How do you arrive at this conclusion?
How would it teach them responsibility towards their job or commitment to an activity?