Child maintanence fraud

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Hello,

Just looking for advise really and to see if anyone has been in a similar situation.

Seperated many moons ago. Ended up having to take childs dad to CMS as private arrangements failed.

All going smoothly for a few years. Feb 2025 comes and the annual review puts the payment up by over £100. Childs dad not happy about this and asks for reconsideration. Reconsideration refused by CMS

Day of the payment comes and I get a letter from CMS saying his wife has opened a CMS case.

The paying parent stated he has moved out of the family home. Hard to believe when he has been away with work all year.

Not only has she added their biological child but also her child from a previous relationship.

The paying parent, my sons dad has not disputed that he is not the step child's father and thus CMS are allowing the step child to be named on the case.

This has now reduced my sons entitlement to the tune of £150 per month.

I believe they have not broken up at all and have done this solely to reduce my sons maintenance.

I have disputed it with CMS and have got my MP involved.

Any advice on the situation appreciated.

Really? Has CMS confirmed this. Seems odd the figures would change for this.
are you sure he hasn’t increased the nights he has them on the paperwork? Or reduced his salary ?

Regardless, he sounds like a knob.

Why ? You can be together and not live together. If you read the legislation you can even claim cms when you live in the same property as an ex partner. They ask about shared spaces kitchen bathroom etc and of course it’s dodgy/a scam for some, but doesn’t mean anything because they are in a relationship. That’s not evidence

Yeah so the 2 kids where accounted for prior to the wife opening her case.

It goes from 12% for one child (which my child was receiving) of his wage

16% for 2 (shared between the 2)

19% for 3 kids (between the 3)

Effectively my son has gone from 12% to 6%

She married him knowing he was in the military and would be away.

Yes I am and I’m sorry if that isn’t the case in your situation but I constantly se women keep their child from their father and still moan and complain they aren’t getting enough child maintenance

This doesn’t deserve an answer really but she doesn’t want ‘all his money ‘ she wants him to contribute to HIS child.
Do you think men shouldn’t pay for their children ?

Fair enough. Can't judge everybody by the same book though can we

Some women look at men like a personal atm.

What is wrong with the MRA morons popping up on here?

Do they think the father shouldn't make any contribution for their child?

The payment figures done matter.
What is not alot to you, maybe a lot to my child's lifestyle.
The paying parents contribution just about covers the food bill for my son.

Never mind every other cost that comes with raising a child.

l have never seen a further discount for not living with other children on any cms calculator. Finding it hard to understand why that would even matter.

The issue would be the stepson surely?

The step child is my primary argument.
His biological dad should be paying for him

My secondary argument is that they have not broken up at all. They have opened a fraudulent case to reduce my sons payment.

Many men look at women as personal maids and sex dolls until it doesn’t suit them, the fuck off out of the picture and cry about having to pay for their own children. You and @Pinkdreams can go whine about those stereotypes on whatever low level thinking MRA/incel group you’ve popped up from.

Keep reporting him op, it’s unbelievably the level some men go to in avoiding paying for their own children. I wish I’d never listened to my own ex’s sob stories about poverty which turned out to be absolute BS.

if I’ve read this right and he’s telling the truth and they have separated, why would the step child still give him a reduction?

Nope

Not unless he adopted him or was ordered by a court. Neither which has happened.

The payment figures do matter.

it it’s a low and shit amount I’m sure people Will agree. If it’s actually quite a lot, plus your own contribution (I’m assuming you work, but if you don’t you’ll be entitled to some help or top up etc) plus child benefit (if you’re eligible). I absolutely think he should contribute, however he shouldn’t pay it all because there is you aswell? If he covers all food then it’s not £20 a week you’re getting is it.

nobody here knows you, the figure could be shared and should support your argument?

I actually can't dignify your question with an answer.

He earns double what I do with none of the the responsibilities. That's it.

It's not enough to cover a food bill. It does not come close to what I spend on my child.

My it is enough? And your is it enough? Could be 2 different amounts.

But what if he was dead? You’d get nothing. It would be enough.
Will you be paying your ex partner the same amount when he has your child in the summer and giving back that weeks maintenance?!
He maybe does earn double, have you maximised your own earning potentials? Do you have a live in partner? If you don’t earn do you claim universal credit etc.

you can’t specify an amount so I’m assuming it’s not a pittance. You feel you’re entitled maybe, but the system has shown otherwise.

again, if he’s taking the piss then I’d support what you’re saying but a child isn’t an income. Without knowing what you think is not enough, which you are reluctant to share (for some reason). It’s hard to say if he’s a cock or sick or being rinsed.

Also CMS is the legal minimum

He does not contribute to anything else. So for my son to lose over £1000 per year you can understand why I am fighting it.

He's not dead so that is irrelevant.

He has my son 4 weeks a year so does not get any discount.

How can I maximise my full earning potential when I am liable for full childcare. My personal situation is NOT relevant to CMS. I'm single and only claim child benefit.

I am reluctant to share bc what your opinion is enough may not be the same as mine.

I expect my son to receive a fair payment. Which he never has.

Dad is using finances as a form of control once again. Hence taking him to CMS in the first place

It won't be massive as I think op said it was 12% . which is basic rate so gross income of 200-800 per week.

So I’d guess with losing around £1000 a year it’s dropped to around 250-300 a month now that his rates gone to 19% for 3 kids?

have you challenged him. Do you think you could get more out of a private agreement or do you think he’d stop paying all together again?

Unfortunately not.

He obviously thinks I'm a money grabbing so and so as it is. Hence the CMS involvement.

Resents giving me money.
Hates me more than he loves his son.

I will fight for my kid though. Even if I have to fight his dad for him.

Not easy when I'm considering having police be there to keep the peace when I drop of half way.

Well if you genuinely think he’s taking the piss, I’d refuse to do drop offs half way. If he takes you back to court tell them you can’t afford it the travel now your maintenance has dropped and cost of living on the increase. A court can enforce you travel, they can just enforce you make child available. But defo do drop offs in public places for your safety.

Not sure what part of the military your exDP is in, but from my understanding of our local army unit they are shit hot on ensuring servicemen pay the correct CM. Is there a family liaison officer you can contact there for advice?