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URGENT: Shall I Divorce Him?

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BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

OP posts:
Verv · 12/05/2024 13:16

OP, I’ve only read your updates and not the whole thread but I just wanted to say you’re doing the right thing x
This man is abusive.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 12/05/2024 13:21

Yes divorce him

DrJonesIpresume · 12/05/2024 14:14

My husband hates my children

There's your answer. Divorce him.

Apolloneuro · 12/05/2024 14:17

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TheAlchemistElixa · 12/05/2024 14:25

You write everything as if it’s from your perspective, your problems the divorce would be causing, you, you, you.

Your poor children. I wouldn’t have stayed a week with a man who treated my children like that, let alone married him.

If you don’t take major radical steps to protect them, your relationship with them may be irreparable. I fear the damage may already have been done.

If you don’t kick him out a divorce him, then you can no longer blame just him for the toxic atmosphere in your house - it will all be on you.

Get him out. Protect your children.

Dibbydoos · 12/05/2024 14:30

What a selfish obnoxious AH he is, taking the living room to work from because his hobby needs a room? Being hypercritical of the children?

Def ask him to leave and start divorce proceedings for unreasonable behaviour and child abuse because that is what he's doing.

You and the children dont need this AH in your lives, what does he add?

I sincerely hope yoyr children aren't psychologically harmed by his controlling and unreasonable behaviour - hanging medals on a wardrobe door makes noise and might damage the wardrobe ffs.

TheAlchemistElixa · 12/05/2024 14:31

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 08:50

Thank you for your kindness and support. It’s so easy to beat someone up when they’ve made a mistake, but thank you for responding with kindness. I know I’ve made a massive mistake with this marriage and I am hugely beating myself up about it - it’s just nice to not to be beaten up on here even more than I’m beating myself up already.

With kindness OP…you’ve been seeing and questioning his behaviour fr more than five years and have never done anything. You come on here to ask if you should divorce him and you get some pretty brutal home truths from the replies, and you’ve ended it within 24 hours.

So I think perhaps the brutality and rudeness is f these answers has done what 5 years of kindness and passivity couldn’t.

wishing you and your children huge amounts and of healing and happiness once all this is over.

please tell them straight away about the decision you’ve made, so that they don’t have to live another day believing that their mother is deliberately keeping them in this toxic family dynamic. They deserve to know that a huge and beneficial decision has finally been made about their future.

good luck with everything. Huge well done

SchoolQuestionnaire · 12/05/2024 14:38

BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:54

Yes but what if he won’t go?

He’s been aggressive and abusive to your dc. Ring the police and get him out.

lecreseut · 12/05/2024 14:39

Go see a TRUST Lawyer.

Can you create a trust, and put the house's name in that of your children until they are 25 or 30 , but you are the trustee..

If you can, do that first. Create the trust so that the house is protected.

then kick him out.

Calamitycassie · 12/05/2024 14:45

We can all stop reading from the first 5 words and unanimously say yes you should divorce the cunt.

what on earth are you doing? Your first 5 words are “my husband hates my children” and you’re asking if you should divorce him?!?

your poor poor kids. Fucking get the prick out on his arse TODAY and never let him near your kids again. Tell them you are sorry for allowing this to go on and that the sorry cunt will never be around any of you again.

TeaMistress · 12/05/2024 14:45

Courage OP. I agree with other posters in that you should have binned off this hideous man long before now. I feel for what you have gone through but it's really awful to think of the impact his appalling abusive behaviour has had on your children. They should have been your first priority and I think it's important that after he has finally gone that you sit down with them and offer them some reassurance that they will be your priority going forward. Get him out of the house and get on with filing for a divorce, it's been a short marriage so any settlement should be minimal.

Idontgiveashitanymore · 12/05/2024 14:47

Sorry but why did you marry this guy ?

Winter2020 · 12/05/2024 14:50

I'm glad to read your updates about the action you are taking OP. You don't have to live like this. I bet you will feel so light and free in your home when he is gone.

Mistymountain · 12/05/2024 14:51

Life must be hell for your children, if I were your daughter I'd be longing for him to die or some how disappear off the face of the Earth. I think you should divorce him, no question.

AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 12/05/2024 14:54

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 07:24

Update 2: He’s saying end of month isn’t enough time for him to move out. I’ve told him it’s happening by the end of the month and I will get an occupation order if he doesn’t go.

Get the occupation order anyway, asap, this week, before he tried to prevent it.

Onlinetherapist · 12/05/2024 14:55

I had a step father just like your husband. I’m in my fifties now and still in therapy for it. I also married a horribly abusive man as I knew no better.

AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 12/05/2024 14:55

Well done OP. That must have been hard. X

stayathomegardener · 12/05/2024 14:56

I'd tell the kids now and prime them he has no rights to criticise or behave aggressively towards them, any hint of that Id use it against him.

Bringonchristmas36 · 12/05/2024 14:57

This has made me sooo angry. How selfish are you. 5 years of your children’s life’s this will stay with them forever

And you still have to ask the question

Joshua5 · 12/05/2024 15:05

BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

He hates your children and he puts hands on them! Sorry to say this but you are as much to blame of you allow your children to be abused like this. Kick him out already. Do you know how many cases like this escalate into something far worst? Many!!!!

Cherrysoup · 12/05/2024 15:08

Get correct legal advice. Pp have mentioned it’s the marital home so he has rights. Don’t change the locks, get an occupation order asap and ensure he isn’t putting one in too.

PersephonePomegranate23 · 12/05/2024 15:08

Cannot believe this. Why anyone would marry someone who behaves like this towards their children is beyond me.

Glad you've sought legal advice and made steps towards divorce. Make sure you go through with it. Then put your children first and stay single.

OpusGiemuJavlo · 12/05/2024 15:10

Why on earth did you marry him?? What possessed you to marry a man who didn't love your kids?

You have to put your kids first and if that means not having the sex life you want that just has to be something you put up with. You don't even move in with a new partner until you are 100% sure the kids will be ok, let alone marrying!

Yes. Divorce. Then stay single until your teens are grown adults because they've suffered enough and moving in another bloke is too risky.

Moveoverdarlin · 12/05/2024 15:11

Your children will need therapy after this. I bet they sleep better tonight knowing he’s gone. Marrying this man ruined their childhoods.

You are doing the right thing.

Cherrysoup · 12/05/2024 15:12

Pointless berating the OP for marrying the guy, presumably he didn’t show his true colours at the time and she can’t reverse time! She’s getting rid now, let’s support that as opposed to deriding her for past actions.

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