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URGENT: Shall I Divorce Him?

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BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

OP posts:
ReadingSoManyThreads · 12/05/2024 12:23

How has he made the mortgage contributions? Directly to the bank from himself, or to you? If to you, what has he written as the reference? If he hasn't written "Mortgage", etc., then might be ok to say the money was only for bills/food. But, yes, he still has some claim due to marriage BUT the fact it was yours prior to meeting him AND it's your children's home, means I think it'll be very little claim. Hopefully, you can just give him a bit of a payoff that doesn't effect you too much. Fingers crossed! And well done for realising enough is enough! His time is up!

Starlight330 · 12/05/2024 12:23

BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

It takes a lot for me to jump on the leave him bandwagon. In this case I've no hesitation in saying get this man out of your life and start again.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 12/05/2024 12:24

@Starlight330 no need to quote the whole lengthy original post!!!

treesaregreat · 12/05/2024 12:25

Echoing PPs about Yes leave him. My own father was/is like this. It was soul destroying and my mother never left him. I have lasting ptsd from constant criticism, emotional, verbal and physical abuse. He was very vocal about never wanting children and found having me being a girl particularly difficult for some reason. Preferred my brother and treated him with respect. Once I hit puberty he got worse with me and thereafter never stopped being a cunt.

My mother was a doormat. Please don't be her.

BirthdayRainbow · 12/05/2024 12:25

Your OP was much longer than needed.

Yes, you should divorce him but tbh you shouldn't have married him when he clearly didn't want to be a step father to them.

GloriousGoosebumps · 12/05/2024 12:28

I'm so pleased you can now see that divorce is the only solution to the way your husband treats your children. A 5 year marriage is treated as a short marriage and the sum that he will be entitled to will be much less than if it had been a long marriage.

ManchesterLu · 12/05/2024 12:29

I only read the first 5 words, and they were enough. Read them to yourself again. "My husband hates my children". Of course you can't stay with him, you can't keep him anywhere near them, what a horrible situation for them to be in!

GingerPirate · 12/05/2024 12:32

GreyBlackLove · 11/05/2024 22:56

I feel so utterly sorry for your children. No-one deserves to live like that. Yes, leave him. Then take a good hard look at yourself and why this has been allowed to go on for so long.

Yes, this with knobs.
And said very nicely.
Your husband is a miserly bastard.

ArabellaScott · 12/05/2024 12:33

thanKyouaIMee · 11/05/2024 22:42

Leave! He's put hands on your children? 100% leave and don't look back.

Speak to a professional about the house / divorce / what would happen, and go into it with the facts.

It doesn't matter if he says he doesn't want a divorce, if you do, you can sort it.

As ever. first response nails it.

ArabellaScott · 12/05/2024 12:36

... and now I've caught up with your subsequent posts.

Clearly that's the right decision, OP.

Good you have a solicitor - Citizen's Advice/Women's Aid/Rights of Women may also all be able to help with advice.

Flowers
Starseeking · 12/05/2024 12:38

Yes, you should divorce him.

Hoppinggreen · 12/05/2024 12:40

All I needed was the first line, yes divorce him

GingerPirate · 12/05/2024 12:40

Snippit · 11/05/2024 23:31

My beautiful,kind, generous sister in law is currently seeing a therapist. At the age off 55 the majority of her issues have stemmed from her vile bullying gas lighting step father, who came into her life when she was 9. He made everyone’s life a misery, especially her mums. She left home at 18 when she could afford to. Her mum stayed the course and had a thoroughly miserable life. I met the miserable shit a few times, he was a vile excuse for a man.

It will be hard, but don’t let this pathetic man fuck up your childrens lives and mental health, you deserve more and your children will appreciate it instead of treading on eggshells all the time, it isn’t healthy.

I hate these bastards.
Well said, although sad.
I have known a good deal of them.

fettybord · 12/05/2024 12:41

Thank goodness your DC will be able to breathe in their home soon. You are doing the right thing

itsmylife7 · 12/05/2024 12:47

Yes.

Sendhelp101 · 12/05/2024 12:50

Why is this even a question? Your children come first, always.

Fatnold · 12/05/2024 12:52

BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

Why on earth did you marry him? 🙄

tkwal · 12/05/2024 12:53

I can't tell you whether you shall divorce him , but I will tell you that you should
Doesn't seem that he is contributing anything to you (and your childrens) quality of life. The way he's acting means it will eventually come to a straight choice...your children or him. He can be replaced , if that's the way you go. The children cant

Wish44 · 12/05/2024 12:55

DriftingDora · 12/05/2024 10:00

Thanks for your lecture, yes I have read the OP's comments, but this is a forum - and people are free to put what comments they wish.

If there was any doubts about this man (and there must have been) then the smartest move was not to marry him, was it, especially as the OP had young kids? And it's time the OP started to put her own children first - he hasn't suddenly become like this overnight - afraid I don't buy that. Perhaps he was a family man when it suited him, but it's painfully obvious that there have been warning flags for some time - just because he could be 'nice' on occasions doesn't outweigh his aggression towards the children - or does it, in your view?

The thing is the op knows she has made a mistake…. How are you helping the situation or the OP?

Wish44 · 12/05/2024 12:58

Well done OP. Your children will thank you. It’s not easy and there will be many battles to come I fear. Stick to your guns and keep in mind the holy grail of a peaceful loving and supportive home.

YourWildAmberSloth · 12/05/2024 12:58

Well done for taking positive action and finally doing the right thing for your kids by ending the marriage. I hope that your children are given the support that they need to recover from this traumatic ordeal. I say this because after five years of living with an abusive step-father and a mother who in their eyes, was unable/unwilling to protect them, there will be damage that needs to be repaired. His leaving the house, will not fix that. In time, you will also need to work at repairing the relationship with your children. They need to know that they can trust you to prioritise and protect them.

Behappyplease · 12/05/2024 13:02

I don’t what the legal implications would be if you change the locks when he is away next weekend but given that he is a bully and emotionally abusing the kids, just do it. Worry about the consequences later, if that is what it takes to get the bastard out, do it. What you do or don’t do now will impact your kids lives. My hubby had a step dad like this, he only realised later in life how bad his childhood was. Good luck OP x

cerisepanther73 · 12/05/2024 13:03

@BusyFinch

Your husband sounds like he is a sergent Major in the army attempting to train up trainee soldier's recruits

He just sounds like he is seriously hard work to be around with
and i don't even have to put up with him

Of course young people teenagers children 🙄 need boundaries to prepare them in life,

However the way your husband is like constantly on their back nit picking about allmost anything

Your children are living on eggs shells

His attitude and behaviour is deliberate to cause friction tension and disharmony and issues
as he is essentially a immature man child who can't cope with handle that your children are a constant reminder one time a while you had a previous relationship and marriage to someone else,

He is a massive Prick and prize ball ache,

He is massive head fuck too,

I was once made a mistake of getting involved with someone like that,

It will not improve get even a bit better

This really is as good as it will gets,

they only mimic self improvement for their own personal agender that suits them to ultimately get their own way,

It's only facade that is...

My advice find a way to separate and divorce him

And put in personal boundaries on how to deal assertively in emotionally intelligent ways

Even get good therapy to help you to improve your self cofindence etc if need be too.

Get as much support as possible around you to help you..

CoffeeAndWrite · 12/05/2024 13:13

I'm sorry but I'll never understand why people marry someone their kids don't like.

Kids should always come first

cerisepanther73 · 12/05/2024 13:16

@BusyFinch

I think 🤔 your husband could be really quite envious jealous of your kind of relationship you have with your children from previous relationship and marriage,

especially if you are close to them too,

So he is deliberately being like a human turd 💩to them so it weakens how close ties you have all together too as a family,
as attempts to create "Triangulation "situations,
in your family home
So it's him you and your children and him being manipulative instigator of disharmony,
trying to create pschological wedges,

So it's them and us kind of situation,

that's what jumps out about your post..

I have unfortunately come across people like this in my life